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any books you read or wish you had read in high school? look...
Big-titted vibrant half-breed doctorate
  12/18/25
I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderso...
Razzmatazz High-end Public Bath Indirect Expression
  12/18/25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712? Reasonable price, ...
puce cerebral ladyboy love of her life
  12/18/25
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Mentally Impaired Pit
  12/18/25
"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys...
histrionic cuck
  12/19/25
this is now forever in my search history I want you dead,...
histrionic cuck
  12/19/25
mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel
startled jade theater stage depressive
  12/18/25
A few offhand: -On the Shortness of Life - Seneca -Sta...
razzle police squad
  12/18/25
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&a...
histrionic cuck
  12/19/25
or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of...
Angry Electric Circlehead
  12/19/25
The Illustrated Man Odyssey The International Jew 1984 M...
cyan vigorous gay wizard
  12/18/25
Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters
fuchsia alpha center
  12/18/25
i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer readin...
Big-titted vibrant half-breed doctorate
  12/18/25
Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Ce...
fuchsia alpha center
  12/18/25
they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your...
Big-titted vibrant half-breed doctorate
  12/18/25
180
fuchsia alpha center
  12/18/25
The eyes and the impossible sourdough heart of samurai...
contagious windowlicker legend
  12/18/25
rocket boys is 180
slate dysfunction
  12/18/25
Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo
contagious windowlicker legend
  12/18/25
...
slate dysfunction
  12/19/25
weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party...
Angry Electric Circlehead
  12/22/25
CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" thos...
Dashing Lavender Philosopher-king Hall
  12/18/25
he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that&rsq...
Big-titted vibrant half-breed doctorate
  12/18/25
The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)
Titillating Jet Immigrant
  12/18/25
ty for the recs, this is helpful i just asked him what bo...
Big-titted vibrant half-breed doctorate
  12/18/25
Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has rea...
bat-shit-crazy wonderful factory reset button
  12/18/25
seconding count of monte cristo three musketeers is also ...
Lascivious mad-dog skullcap
  12/18/25
JackTales 🤡😳
odious skinny woman station
  12/18/25
those are for reading out loud , clown
contagious windowlicker legend
  12/18/25
The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton https://www.amazon...
glittery crimson chapel
  12/18/25
Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz) We Were Soldiers Once… And...
soul-stirring stage
  12/18/25
are you seriously recommending a book on manhood written by ...
dun area
  12/18/25
I’m not even sure which author you’re talking ab...
soul-stirring stage
  12/18/25
lol
dun area
  12/18/25
he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers &qu...
Mewling Lay
  12/21/25
Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000
slate dysfunction
  12/18/25
No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a bet...
soul-stirring stage
  12/18/25
James Bond novels Conan (only read the flemming and howard...
Boyish ocher preventive strike hissy fit
  12/18/25
The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.
razzle police squad
  12/18/25
Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 ...
Boyish ocher preventive strike hissy fit
  12/18/25
Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new boo...
razzle police squad
  12/18/25
1. Goldfinger 2. Moonraker 3. Casino Royale 4. From Russ...
Boyish ocher preventive strike hissy fit
  12/19/25
tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I th...
razzle police squad
  12/21/25
cr
slate dysfunction
  12/18/25
Anabasis
Sepia Fighting Space Persian
  12/18/25
...
dun area
  12/18/25
Flowers for Algernon
khaki stock car tanning salon
  12/18/25
The Lessons of History - Will & Ariel Durant Man's Sear...
dun area
  12/18/25
a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it...
Multi-colored primrose faggot firefighter
  12/18/25
Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in ...
Beady-eyed locale sweet tailpipe
  12/18/25
Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?) Zen and the Art of Motorc...
Swashbuckling nursing home
  12/18/25
> Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance lol
dun area
  12/18/25
read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class i...
Big-titted vibrant half-breed doctorate
  12/18/25
zorba the greek
slate dysfunction
  12/18/25
...
soul-stirring stage
  12/18/25
Several good recs already upthread. Some others: The Thin...
Dashing Lavender Philosopher-king Hall
  12/18/25
Cr. list I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit ov...
soul-stirring stage
  12/18/25
The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorit...
bateful range partner
  12/18/25
...
Dashing Lavender Philosopher-king Hall
  12/18/25
agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise cau...
Mewling Lay
  12/22/25
Watership Down A Day No Pigs Would Die 2nd Where the R...
Well-lubricated Comical Shitlib
  12/18/25
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Coral Shaky National Goyim
  12/18/25
Starship Troopers Enders Game Johnny Tremain Childhoods E...
diverse ticket booth
  12/18/25
A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES
histrionic cuck
  12/19/25
Neon Bible better rec for younger kid
Sepia Fighting Space Persian
  12/19/25
abridged edgar allen poe short stories
Mauve appetizing queen of the night
  12/19/25
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erotic orchestra pit
  12/26/25


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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: Big-titted vibrant half-breed doctorate

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? looking for something that would be motivating / tools for life genre

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: Razzmatazz High-end Public Bath Indirect Expression

I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderson (Broken Sword, Three Hearts and Three Lions) Fritz Lieber (Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser) etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519444)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: puce cerebral ladyboy love of her life

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712?

Reasonable price, free shipping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519452)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: Mentally Impaired Pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519458)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:35 AM
Author: histrionic cuck

"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys and crayons, a bubble bath, and lots of love."

-- School Library Journal

"Will undoubtedly be scooped up by families seeking queer representation in board books."

-- Kirkus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49521596)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:42 AM
Author: histrionic cuck

this is now forever in my search history

I want you dead, Malk Poo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49521719)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: startled jade theater stage depressive

mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519459)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: razzle police squad

A few offhand:

-On the Shortness of Life - Seneca

-Starship Troopers (the book is much better and more serious than the movie)

-Bonfire of the Vanities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519460)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:10 AM
Author: histrionic cuck

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&forum_id=2#35633765

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49521571)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: Angry Electric Circlehead

or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of his vanities

toughens him up a bit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49522050)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: cyan vigorous gay wizard

The Illustrated Man

Odyssey

The International Jew

1984

Meditations

The Myth of Sisyphus

Hamlet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519465)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: fuchsia alpha center

Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519476)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Big-titted vibrant half-breed doctorate

i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer reading assignments



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519493)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:34 PM
Author: fuchsia alpha center

Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Celestine Prophecy, Lord of the Flies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519513)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Big-titted vibrant half-breed doctorate

they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your other recs, ty!

he just finished peak, so hatchet is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519523)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: fuchsia alpha center

180

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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: contagious windowlicker legend

The eyes and the impossible

sourdough

heart of samurai

artemis

rocket boys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519953)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: slate dysfunction

rocket boys is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49520282)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: contagious windowlicker legend

Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49521280)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:34 AM
Author: slate dysfunction



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: Angry Electric Circlehead

weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party scene at my rural West Virginia high school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49530601)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: Dashing Lavender Philosopher-king Hall

CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" those by HS, especially later in HS?

My 7 year old just read--and really enjoyed--Hatchet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519755)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: Big-titted vibrant half-breed doctorate

he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that’s more his reading level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519767)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: Titillating Jet Immigrant

The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519483)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: Big-titted vibrant half-breed doctorate

ty for the recs, this is helpful

i just asked him what book he’s reading (we’re on a flight) and its war and peace

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519489)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy wonderful factory reset button

Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has read tons of other Russian lit and has a solid grounding in religion and philosophy.

Count of Monte Cristo is a goat novel that is also accessible and really exciting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519679)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: Lascivious mad-dog skullcap

seconding count of monte cristo

three musketeers is also great and vastly superior to any adaptation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519686)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: odious skinny woman station

JackTales 🤡😳

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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: contagious windowlicker legend

those are for reading out loud , clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519956)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: glittery crimson chapel

The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton

https://www.amazon.com/Boy-Pink-Hair-Perez-Hilton/dp/0451234200

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519492)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: soul-stirring stage

Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz)

We Were Soldiers Once… And Young (Moore & Galloway)

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage (Lansing)

The Way of Men (Donovan)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519502)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: dun area

are you seriously recommending a book on manhood written by a homo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519701)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: soul-stirring stage

I’m not even sure which author you’re talking about, though I’m 99.99% sure that it’s not Moore or Galloway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519724)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:41 PM
Author: dun area

lol

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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: Mewling Lay

he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers "androphile," a term he uses to describe romance and sex between masculine men

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Donovan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49528627)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: slate dysfunction

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519898)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: soul-stirring stage

No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a better idea of what it means to be a man and to experience the thrill, the triumph, of surviving impossible odds. Leadership, loyalty, discipline. And then they get home and are like, fuck it, sign me up for WWI’s trenches

My middle son needed a bit of coaching on perseverance, so we read this together and then did a HARD AS FUCK mountain bike camping trip in western NC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49520739)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: Boyish ocher preventive strike hissy fit

James Bond novels

Conan (only read the flemming and howard originals though)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519505)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: razzle police squad

The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519535)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:51 PM
Author: Boyish ocher preventive strike hissy fit

Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 or so) in a summer. all were 180. I tried reading the non-flemming but its not the same. They don't write novels like that anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519587)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: razzle police squad

Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new books to read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519744)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Boyish ocher preventive strike hissy fit

1. Goldfinger

2. Moonraker

3. Casino Royale

4. From Russia With Love

5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

the order changes based on mood but these five are in a tier above.

the rest are all solid. for example, Diamonds are Forever is my least favorite and that is still leagues better than any modern espionage novel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49522101)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:44 PM
Author: razzle police squad

tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I think.

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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: slate dysfunction

cr

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: Sepia Fighting Space Persian

Anabasis

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: dun area



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: khaki stock car tanning salon

Flowers for Algernon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519548)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: dun area

The Lessons of History - Will & Ariel Durant

Man's Search for Meaning - Viktor Frankl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519568)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: Multi-colored primrose faggot firefighter

a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it. great series for boys who like knights, politics, and violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519602)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Beady-eyed locale sweet tailpipe

Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in the series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519689)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: Swashbuckling nursing home

Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?)

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Dune

anything recent by Lawrence Millman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519705)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: dun area

> Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

lol

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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: Big-titted vibrant half-breed doctorate

read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class in hs. book was so so but class was 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519770)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: slate dysfunction

zorba the greek



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519710)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: soul-stirring stage



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: Dashing Lavender Philosopher-king Hall

Several good recs already upthread. Some others:

The Things They Carried

Mark Twain--starting with Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn

1984

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (and throw in The Hobbit)

Infinite Jest

Moby Dick

Blood Meridian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49519751)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:30 PM
Author: soul-stirring stage

Cr. list

I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit overexposed to the hopelessly feminized librarian space for a time and was looked down upon as kind of trite. But it’s 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49520745)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: bateful range partner

The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorite. You shouldn't look down on librarian recs. This is all they do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49520815)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: Dashing Lavender Philosopher-king Hall



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: Mewling Lay

agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise caution with the second and third sentences just given that the values may not be stoic masculine warrior

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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Comical Shitlib

Watership Down

A Day No Pigs Would Die

2nd Where the Red Fern Grows

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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:33 PM
Author: Coral Shaky National Goyim



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: diverse ticket booth

Starship Troopers

Enders Game

Johnny Tremain

Childhoods End

Rama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2],#49520778)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:16 AM
Author: histrionic cuck

A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES

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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:11 AM
Author: Sepia Fighting Space Persian

Neon Bible better rec for younger kid

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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:23 AM
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