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Couldn't you fire "dummy missiles" alongside real ones to overwhelm defenses?

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in the...
Vivacious Umber Hall
  06/18/25
Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the co...
fuchsia beady-eyed heaven
  06/18/25
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Irate depressive
  06/18/25
Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet...
Vivacious Umber Hall
  06/18/25
What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does...
pontificating kitchen giraffe
  06/18/25
They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket...
anal vibrant skinny woman goal in life
  06/18/25
You can answer the question now
pontificating kitchen giraffe
  06/18/25
So this is actually an idea which people have used. The ide...
fuchsia beady-eyed heaven
  06/18/25
Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.
pontificating kitchen giraffe
  06/18/25
What if they use lawnmower drones?
pontificating kitchen giraffe
  06/18/25
Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then sh...
cream degenerate
  06/18/25
...
Vivacious Umber Hall
  06/18/25
Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?
Confused locale candlestick maker
  06/18/25
Yes
fuchsia beady-eyed heaven
  06/19/25
just trebuchet hot boulders
Mahogany Garrison
  06/18/25
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Motley Plum Set Roommate
  06/18/25
(Bobby Birdshit)
Hyperventilating submissive sweet tailpipe step-uncle's house
  06/18/25
Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release ...
Costumed contagious halford macaca
  06/18/25
No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and...
pontificating kitchen giraffe
  06/18/25
Man think disabled people have it hard enough
Vivacious Umber Hall
  06/18/25
This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.
flushed adventurous factory reset button
  06/19/25


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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:49 PM
Author: Vivacious Umber Hall

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in them along with some that do, AA doesn't know the difference. Am I some insanely smart war strategist or what? Why doesn't Iran do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029366)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: fuchsia beady-eyed heaven

Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the cost of the rocket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029376)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Irate depressive



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: Vivacious Umber Hall

Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029414)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: pontificating kitchen giraffe

What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does it still require engineering you can barely fathom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029418)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: anal vibrant skinny woman goal in life

They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket. You could just fill the explosives chamber with rocks or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029430)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: pontificating kitchen giraffe

You can answer the question now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029456)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: fuchsia beady-eyed heaven

So this is actually an idea which people have used. The idea is to overwhelm the defenses by sending a lot of dumber, low cost munitions, but sending a dummy makes no sense economically. At some point there are not enough anti-missile weapons to stop them all. This is why drones can be effective; send thousands to the same place you can’t shoot them all down (in theory — shoot drones is pretty easy with a gun based defense, but there are range issues).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029477)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:49 PM
Author: pontificating kitchen giraffe

Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030279)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: pontificating kitchen giraffe

What if they use lawnmower drones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029458)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: cream degenerate

Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then shoot them out of the real one once it gets close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029498)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: Vivacious Umber Hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029596)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:40 PM
Author: Confused locale candlestick maker

Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030056)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: fuchsia beady-eyed heaven

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49031438)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: Mahogany Garrison

just trebuchet hot boulders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030054)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Motley Plum Set Roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030068)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Hyperventilating submissive sweet tailpipe step-uncle's house

(Bobby Birdshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029422)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: Costumed contagious halford macaca

Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release as they fly over high ADA regions. Supposedly some of the early Russian missile strikes in 2022 included completely inert iskander missiles whose explosive payloads were substituted entirely by decoys. This allowed them to fire volleys and have significantly more decoys to overwhelm air defenses, exactly as you suggested.

https://en.topcor.ru/24483-nyt-uznal-o-zapuskaemyh-rossiej-lozhnyh-celjah-vmeste-s-raketami-iskander-m.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030052)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:51 PM
Author: pontificating kitchen giraffe

No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and 48 hours later poasters are saying it costs nothing to add a warhead. Guess Judaism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030286)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:52 PM
Author: Vivacious Umber Hall

Man think disabled people have it hard enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030291)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: flushed adventurous factory reset button

This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49031415)