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Sam Altman: maybe selling AI by tokens was a mistake (link)

https://x.com/businessinsider/status/2062211094450434219?s=6...
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american closed model providers are going to get their assho...
345
  06/04/26
no corp is gonna run chinese crap at enterprise scale
icanseemyneurons
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The Penis
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tokens in abundance
  06/04/26
Everything else is made in China. China provoded tons of ser...
Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions
  06/04/26
its more comparable to telecom prohibitions than importing r...
icanseemyneurons
  06/04/26
Why are the telecom prohibitons necessary if corp wouldn't u...
Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions
  06/04/26
the US government will just make it illegal to use chinese A...
an idea whose time has come
  06/04/26
They are all distilled counterfeit garbage anyway
The Penis
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icanseemyneurons
  06/04/26
yeah but he's right that a lot of companies would otherwise ...
an idea whose time has come
  06/04/26
enterprise foundation models dont charge per token except fo...
icanseemyneurons
  06/04/26
They can just use cheap US models. What jobs really need fro...
The Penis
  06/04/26
they can't and won't
345
  06/04/26
ofc they can, the whole US economy is going to revolve aroun...
an idea whose time has come
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icanseemyneurons
  06/04/26
They can and won't.
Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions
  06/04/26
has anyone tried coding with chinese models?
baldhead
  06/04/26
Yeah it's not horrible but now that codex 5.5 is insane you ...
The Penis
  06/04/26
is it really that much cheaper or better than claude code?
baldhead
  06/04/26
Yeah it's significantly cheaper Open AI appears to be heavil...
The Penis
  06/04/26
How many times have people said "Have you ever tried us...
Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions
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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:21 AM
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https://x.com/businessinsider/status/2062211094450434219?s=61

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914690)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:28 AM
Author: 345 (🧐)

american closed model providers are going to get their assholds eaten out by low cost chinese models and are scared shitless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914700)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:28 AM
Author: icanseemyneurons

no corp is gonna run chinese crap at enterprise scale

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914701)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:35 AM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914719)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:39 AM
Author: tokens in abundance



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914742)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:48 AM
Author: Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions

Everything else is made in China. China provoded tons of services that use our data. There's no reason to think AI will be different unless the government prohibits it. Companies will always eventually go with the lowest cost thing that does the job at an enterprise level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914775)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:51 AM
Author: icanseemyneurons

its more comparable to telecom prohibitions than importing rubber trash cans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914792)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:55 AM
Author: Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions

Why are the telecom prohibitons necessary if corp wouldn't use them?

Because, like I said, they will use it unless it's prohibited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914797)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:32 AM
Author: an idea whose time has come

the US government will just make it illegal to use chinese AI models

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914711)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:35 AM
Author: The Penis

They are all distilled counterfeit garbage anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914723)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:36 AM
Author: icanseemyneurons



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:37 AM
Author: an idea whose time has come

yeah but he's right that a lot of companies would otherwise use them anyway because they're an order of magnitude cheaper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914729)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:40 AM
Author: icanseemyneurons

enterprise foundation models dont charge per token except for frontier capabilities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914745)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:55 AM
Author: The Penis

They can just use cheap US models. What jobs really need frontier reasoning?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914800)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:38 AM
Author: 345 (🧐)

they can't and won't

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914736)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:43 AM
Author: an idea whose time has come

ofc they can, the whole US economy is going to revolve around AI soon

they will be forced to even if they didn't want to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914757)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:44 AM
Author: icanseemyneurons



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:48 AM
Author: Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions

They can and won't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914777)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:55 AM
Author: baldhead

has anyone tried coding with chinese models?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914798)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 11:56 AM
Author: The Penis

Yeah it's not horrible but now that codex 5.5 is insane you can't really just go back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914803)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:00 PM
Author: baldhead

is it really that much cheaper or better than claude code?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914820)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:02 PM
Author: The Penis

Yeah it's significantly cheaper Open AI appears to be heavily subsidizing the cost. It's like twice as cheap for input tokens and 20-40% cheaper on output depending which gpt pricing tier you aare using. Also not just for tokens for the 100 dollar plan on codex vs claude you get way more usage. Claude depletes faster during peak hours too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914828)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions

How many times have people said "Have you ever tried using a Xhinese X?" about a products that are now exclusively produced in China?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5871022&forum_id=2],#49914841)