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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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maroon old irish cottage
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Chrome big-titted home laser beams
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Chrome big-titted home laser beams
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Godawful Sandwich Center
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
yellow patrolman halford
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
copper toilet seat queen of the night
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
At-the-ready pistol cruise ship
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
passionate dilemma
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
passionate dilemma
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
passionate dilemma
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Arousing nofapping tattoo
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
confused space
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Sooty hilarious police squad
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
copper toilet seat queen of the night
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
maroon old irish cottage
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
sepia vengeful internal respiration
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Pearly Depressive Parlour
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
slap-happy incel
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
maroon old irish cottage
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Lavender Base Dog Poop
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/26/25
...
walnut garrison
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Bonkers Diverse Ceo Plaza
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
exhilarant philosopher-king range
  06/26/25
...
boyish karate
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Frisky indigo alpha
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Topaz Rough-skinned Rehab Nibblets
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Odious background story sweet tailpipe
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Topaz Rough-skinned Rehab Nibblets
  06/27/25
How was penn?
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
copper toilet seat queen of the night
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
At-the-ready pistol cruise ship
  06/27/25
...
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Razzmatazz jap
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Topaz Rough-skinned Rehab Nibblets
  06/27/25
...
electric haunting feces locus
  06/27/25
...
ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Odious background story sweet tailpipe
  06/27/25
How is STB?
At-the-ready pistol cruise ship
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Dark Telephone
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
copper toilet seat queen of the night
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Bonkers Diverse Ceo Plaza
  06/27/25
...
titillating property
  06/27/25
...
copper toilet seat queen of the night
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: maroon old irish cottage

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Chrome big-titted home laser beams

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Chrome big-titted home laser beams

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Godawful Sandwich Center

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: yellow patrolman halford

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: copper toilet seat queen of the night

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: At-the-ready pistol cruise ship

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: passionate dilemma

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: passionate dilemma

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: passionate dilemma

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Arousing nofapping tattoo

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: confused space

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Sooty hilarious police squad

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: copper toilet seat queen of the night

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: maroon old irish cottage

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: sepia vengeful internal respiration

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Pearly Depressive Parlour

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: slap-happy incel

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: maroon old irish cottage

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Lavender Base Dog Poop

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: walnut garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Bonkers Diverse Ceo Plaza

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: exhilarant philosopher-king range

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: boyish karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Frisky indigo alpha

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Topaz Rough-skinned Rehab Nibblets

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Odious background story sweet tailpipe

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Topaz Rough-skinned Rehab Nibblets

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: copper toilet seat queen of the night

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: At-the-ready pistol cruise ship

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Razzmatazz jap

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Topaz Rough-skinned Rehab Nibblets

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: electric haunting feces locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: ungodly coldplay fan scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Odious background story sweet tailpipe

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: At-the-ready pistol cruise ship

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Dark Telephone

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: copper toilet seat queen of the night

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Bonkers Diverse Ceo Plaza

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: titillating property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: copper toilet seat queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053817)