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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Cerebral death wish casino
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
carnelian twinkling uncleanness meetinghouse
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Charismatic university
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
azure field
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Charismatic university
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
azure field
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Charismatic university
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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puce soul-stirring brethren
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
laughsome mood forum
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cq
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
seedy step-uncle's house fortuitous meteor
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
Appetizing mad cow disease
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Cerebral death wish casino

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: carnelian twinkling uncleanness meetinghouse

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: carnelian twinkling uncleanness meetinghouse

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: carnelian twinkling uncleanness meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: carnelian twinkling uncleanness meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: carnelian twinkling uncleanness meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: carnelian twinkling uncleanness meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: carnelian twinkling uncleanness meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: carnelian twinkling uncleanness meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: carnelian twinkling uncleanness meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: carnelian twinkling uncleanness meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: carnelian twinkling uncleanness meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49128622)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Charismatic university

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: azure field

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Charismatic university

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: azure field

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Charismatic university

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: bossy purple incel

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Yellow corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: puce soul-stirring brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: laughsome mood forum

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: fluffy crystalline electric furnace deer antler

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Aquamarine curious native

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: bossy purple incel

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: seedy step-uncle's house fortuitous meteor

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Appetizing mad cow disease

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: glittery plaza

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49105022)