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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
big rusted theater
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Smoky persian trump supporter
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
gay pungent preventive strike fat ankles
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
outnumbered base
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
gay pungent preventive strike fat ankles
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
outnumbered base
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
gay pungent preventive strike fat ankles
  05/29/25
Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
arousing meetinghouse codepig
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trip sable half-breed
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supple drunken location
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Bistre pea-brained pisswyrm
  05/29/25
cq
Topaz box office gaming laptop
  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
green parlor
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
arousing meetinghouse codepig
  07/02/25
i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
Beady-eyed Nursing Home
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
purple disturbing hospital pervert
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: big rusted theater

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Smoky persian trump supporter

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Smoky persian trump supporter

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Smoky persian trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Smoky persian trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Smoky persian trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Smoky persian trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Smoky persian trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Smoky persian trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Smoky persian trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Smoky persian trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Smoky persian trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: gay pungent preventive strike fat ankles

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: outnumbered base

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: gay pungent preventive strike fat ankles

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: outnumbered base

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: gay pungent preventive strike fat ankles

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: arousing meetinghouse codepig

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: trip sable half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: supple drunken location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Bistre pea-brained pisswyrm

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Topaz box office gaming laptop

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: green parlor

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: arousing meetinghouse codepig

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Nursing Home

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: purple disturbing hospital pervert

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: curious bat shit crazy resort

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49105022)