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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Aphrodisiac Indian Lodge
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just walk outside bro
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Cracking Filthy Principal's Office
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
stimulating bawdyhouse
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Cracking Filthy Principal's Office
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
stimulating bawdyhouse
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Cracking Filthy Principal's Office
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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Bronze talented volcanic crater
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac Indian Lodge

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: spectacular clown organic girlfriend

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: spectacular clown organic girlfriend

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: spectacular clown organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: spectacular clown organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: spectacular clown organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: spectacular clown organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: spectacular clown organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: spectacular clown organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: spectacular clown organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: spectacular clown organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: spectacular clown organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49128622)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Cracking Filthy Principal's Office

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: stimulating bawdyhouse

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Cracking Filthy Principal's Office

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: stimulating bawdyhouse

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Cracking Filthy Principal's Office

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Irradiated locale

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: razzmatazz chocolate field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Bronze talented volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: ocher marvelous senate famous landscape painting

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Poppy Seedy Sanctuary Queen Of The Night

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: bat shit crazy macaca

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Irradiated locale

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal box office partner

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Aqua Meetinghouse

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: walnut market

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49105022)