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I don't get how AI is supposed to create new jobs in different industries.
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 10:58 AM Author: Drab goal in life stage If you run a travel agency or personal finance firm or real estate tax advisory or anything else that isn't a trade, even mega ones, what is the point of "licensing" software from an AI company when those same capabilities are being or will be offered direct to the consumer.
People are like "this is going to make businesses more lean and efficient by requiring only 1/10th the employees and costs"
But why would there be those businesses at all.
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:00 AM Author: Vibrant Abusive Piazza Filthpig real estate agents exist goyim are very dumb & hate each other, they "wont trust" an AI without gc claptrap dancing cgi minorities front of house |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:00 AM Author: coral swashbuckling haunted graveyard i read your post 3 times and i don't understand what you're trying to say (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49042346) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:03 AM Author: flushed community account blood rage Experts claim AI will create new jobs In fact, AI will be eliminating and or replacing jobs Therefore, aren't we fuct? |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:17 AM Author: coral swashbuckling haunted graveyard mostly, yeah
the claim that new technology "always creates more jobs than it obviates" is totally untrue. AI will definitely eliminate more jobs than it creates
the argument for AI being a net improvement to the world is that it will create vastly more material wealth, to the extent that we'll be able to tax the enormously profitable capitalists and financiers and redistribute that income to everyone else, making everyone net better off. but i don't think this will work, because capitalists and financiers will just dodge getting taxed, like they currently do
imo there is no sound argument for AI improving regular people's lives within the existing sociopolitical paradigm that we currently live in. the whitepill argument for AI is that it will empower talented and ambitious individuals and groups enough to become legitimate rivals to the existing sociopolitical power structure |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:20 AM Author: Stubborn tank heaven "whitepill argument for AI is that it will empower talented and ambitious individuals and groups enough to become legitimate rivals to the existing sociopolitical power structure"
LMAO no chance, the existing power structure will legislate AI out of existence before they let this happen. Up to and including boots on the ground and airstriking data centers. There's no way to clandestinely run a cutting edge AI model that could compete with quasi-state actors like Google or Microsoft. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:33 AM Author: coral swashbuckling haunted graveyard the existing power structure is slow, decrepit, corrupt, incompetent. they aren't even aligned enough to take broad and decisive action against AI as a technology
besides, if one government tries to regulate AI out of existence, AI companies will just move to other governments instead, who will eagerly welcome them with open arms
people are already building LLMs that run on distributed networks that will be more powerful than OpenAI, anthropic, etc frontier models. AI will become what many "dissident" people thought that crypto was: a way to build parallel networks that can actually concentrate enough power to achieve autonomy from the existing sociopolitical paradigm |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:35 AM Author: Stubborn tank heaven good luck with that if the US is first mover to regulate AI out of existence. They just demonstrated this weekend what would happen if any foreign adversary attempted a breakout.
There are far too many hard physics latency issues to make distributed AI viable compared to centralized, it just isn't going to happen. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:44 AM Author: coral swashbuckling haunted graveyard training is where distributed networks will make a big difference. inference can already be done locally and it will only get better relative to centrally computed inference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49042454) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 12:39 PM Author: Brindle hideous twinkling uncleanness trailer park and they should (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49042630) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:25 AM Author: vigorous senate fat ankles hard agree. we are now in a desperate race to be part of the capital owning class during AI era
and it's so patently obvious that i dont see how anyone disagrees |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 12:38 PM Author: Stubborn tank heaven Thus the price spirals on houses, cars, and physical precious metals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49042629) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:08 AM Author: Drab goal in life stage How will a real estate tax advisory firm survive, even it is given access to "AI", when ChatGPT will offer the same exact service directly to the people who need it?
There's a plant identifier app I have on my iphone. It's really popular with a lot of users. The app is proud to announce that they are now even more accurate because they are using AI. But I haven't used it in months because I can just take a picture with ChatGPT and it will immediately identify the plant. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:24 AM Author: ruddy bat shit crazy hall The world is getting Very Gay Very Quickly. You can already tell most work product is just AI slop being passed around. That said, it’s tough to picture that there won’t be subject matter experts controlling AI in their fields. If you have a potential 10m tax bill you aren’t going to feel comfortable that the AI tool has done everything perfectly or even if you trust the AI that you personally understand how to operate it will enough. You’d rather pay $10k and just make sure it’s done right. So there’s still going to be jobs IMO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49042401) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:24 AM Author: coral swashbuckling haunted graveyard short answer: they won't. you are correct. this is why AI will destroy more jobs than it will create
the longer answer is: AI is different from previous forms of technology. it's more accurate to think of it as direct human labor inputs that can be spun up on demand than as a tool-form of technology |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:11 AM Author: aphrodisiac cerise dopamine meetinghouse We've already been here with spreadsheets and word processors. There will just be more jobs and we'll be richer than ever. Enjoy an age of miracles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49042370) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 12:40 PM Author: Brindle hideous twinkling uncleanness trailer park (sociopath) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49042634) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:26 AM Author: Galvanic indian lodge it's not supposed to just create new jobs. those pumping ai think it will displace many workers. instead of having a call center with 50 employees, you'll have ai agents taking on the role of 40 employees and you'll only need 10 to deal with issues that can't be resolved by ai.
if your call center agents cost 80k each (all in), you're talking about reducing human costs from $4 million a year to 800k. that leaves a lot of money on the table to pay a potential 60k/month ai bill. call center costs could fall by 50% or more |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:41 AM Author: Drab goal in life stage A call center for what? A SAAS that will be replaced by AI. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49042445) |
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Date: June 24th, 2025 7:45 AM Author: Vibrant Abusive Piazza Filthpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49045054) |
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Date: June 24th, 2025 7:50 AM Author: Comical Aqua Puppy National Security Agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49045074) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:46 AM Author: Slippery Disturbing Lay Love Of Her Life When ai eliminates many jobs, it will also eliminate the ability for most ppl to buy products or services offered by firms who are using ai. Profits, therefore, will decline as costs decline and entire economy will collapse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49042463) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 12:00 PM Author: Drab goal in life stage Good point. I have thought about this too. Why is a lender that owns a bunch of mortgage loans going to need AI when none of its customers are paying mortgages anymore because they don't have jobs.
Work and purpose will have to be redefined. |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 1:09 PM Author: ruddy bat shit crazy hall Most companies already have tons of employees that do nothing and could be safely eliminated. There’s another element to employment beyond need. Managers like to have employees to boss around and want to build empires (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49042769) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 1:08 PM Author: Very tactful sexy principal's office windowlicker The wealthiest 10% already account for 50% of consumer spending, up from around a third of spending twenty years ago. They will just continue to increase their share (second and third homes, more luxury vacations, more funko pops, etc.) as everyone else steadily drops out of the economy and moves into the mega-slums.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/americas-wealthiest-households-driving-nearly-half-consumer-spending-moodys |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 1:09 PM Author: soul-stirring charcoal nowag (second and third homes, more luxury vacations, more funko pops, etc.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49042766) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 12:40 PM Author: soul-stirring charcoal nowag We now have Additional Indians. They must be given jobs. What's so hard to understand? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49042635) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 9:00 PM Author: adventurous mischievous feces lodge I think the argument is that 300 years ago everyone was a farmer.
Now we have masseuses, influencers, personal trainers, cruise ships, dog walkers, and other frivolous shit.
Can we take our frivolous jobs to the next level? I'm skeptical... |
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Date: June 23rd, 2025 11:36 PM Author: Floppy maniacal friendly grandma put AI in robots and those go away too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5742188&forum_id=2],#49044554) |