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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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insecure cerebral giraffe tanning salon
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Passionate party of the first part
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
underhanded doobsian pit
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Passionate party of the first part
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
underhanded doobsian pit
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Floppy water buffalo casino
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
sick soul-stirring shrine
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Passionate party of the first part
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
plum diverse dilemma
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
sepia frisky whorehouse nowag
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
titillating harsh stead
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Passionate party of the first part
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
titillating harsh stead
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
titillating harsh stead
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Passionate party of the first part
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
rambunctious corn cake center
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Passionate party of the first part
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Passionate party of the first part
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Passionate party of the first part
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
swashbuckling university therapy
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
abusive elastic band
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
plum diverse dilemma
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Passionate party of the first part
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
insecure cerebral giraffe tanning salon
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Passionate party of the first part
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
tantric cuckoldry police squad
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Onyx weed whacker
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
very tactful arrogant parlour
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
insecure cerebral giraffe tanning salon
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
multi-colored mint newt turdskin
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Passionate party of the first part
  06/26/25
...
big half-breed brunch
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Umber nibblets
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
excitant chad institution
  06/26/25
...
Laughsome stag film
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
electric hissy fit dog poop
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Drunken pearly dopamine
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Aquamarine windowlicker trailer park
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Passionate party of the first part
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Drunken pearly dopamine
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Passionate party of the first part
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
plum diverse dilemma
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
sepia frisky whorehouse nowag
  06/27/25
...
Passionate party of the first part
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
maize pisswyrm sanctuary
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Drunken pearly dopamine
  06/27/25
...
clear arousing fanboi new version
  06/27/25
...
Passionate party of the first part
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Aquamarine windowlicker trailer park
  06/27/25
How is STB?
sepia frisky whorehouse nowag
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Sapphire public bath mother
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
plum diverse dilemma
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Umber nibblets
  06/27/25
...
Vibrant orange indian lodge dragon
  06/27/25
...
plum diverse dilemma
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: insecure cerebral giraffe tanning salon

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Passionate party of the first part

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: underhanded doobsian pit

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Passionate party of the first part

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: underhanded doobsian pit

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Floppy water buffalo casino

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: sick soul-stirring shrine

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Passionate party of the first part

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: plum diverse dilemma

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: sepia frisky whorehouse nowag

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: titillating harsh stead

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Passionate party of the first part

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: titillating harsh stead

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: titillating harsh stead

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Passionate party of the first part

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: rambunctious corn cake center

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Passionate party of the first part

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Passionate party of the first part

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Passionate party of the first part

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: swashbuckling university therapy

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: abusive elastic band

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: plum diverse dilemma

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Passionate party of the first part

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: insecure cerebral giraffe tanning salon

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Passionate party of the first part

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: tantric cuckoldry police squad

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Onyx weed whacker

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant parlour

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: insecure cerebral giraffe tanning salon

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: multi-colored mint newt turdskin

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Passionate party of the first part

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: big half-breed brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Umber nibblets

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: excitant chad institution

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Laughsome stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: electric hissy fit dog poop

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Drunken pearly dopamine

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Aquamarine windowlicker trailer park

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Passionate party of the first part

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Drunken pearly dopamine

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Passionate party of the first part

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: plum diverse dilemma

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: sepia frisky whorehouse nowag

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Passionate party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: maize pisswyrm sanctuary

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Drunken pearly dopamine

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: clear arousing fanboi new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Passionate party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Aquamarine windowlicker trailer park

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: sepia frisky whorehouse nowag

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Sapphire public bath mother

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: plum diverse dilemma

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Umber nibblets

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Vibrant orange indian lodge dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: plum diverse dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053817)