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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
soggy really tough guy senate
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Floppy disturbing national laser beams
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Ruddy stage headpube
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Brilliant regret
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Ruddy stage headpube
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Brilliant regret
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Ruddy stage headpube
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
Abusive self-absorbed lodge factory reset button
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copper fear-inspiring generalized bond institution
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stimulating cordovan roast beef yarmulke
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Vivacious Location Nowag
  05/29/25
cq
Comical bawdyhouse
  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
Bateful violet ratface
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Abusive self-absorbed lodge factory reset button
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
cowardly flushed karate mad-dog skullcap
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
cerebral quadroon
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
waste land of reality
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: soggy really tough guy senate

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Floppy disturbing national laser beams

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Floppy disturbing national laser beams

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Floppy disturbing national laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Floppy disturbing national laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Floppy disturbing national laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Floppy disturbing national laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Floppy disturbing national laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Floppy disturbing national laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Floppy disturbing national laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Ruddy stage headpube

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Brilliant regret

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Ruddy stage headpube

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Brilliant regret

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Ruddy stage headpube

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Abusive self-absorbed lodge factory reset button

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: copper fear-inspiring generalized bond institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: stimulating cordovan roast beef yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Vivacious Location Nowag

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Comical bawdyhouse

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Bateful violet ratface

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Abusive self-absorbed lodge factory reset button

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: cowardly flushed karate mad-dog skullcap

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: cerebral quadroon

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: waste land of reality

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49105022)