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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:53 AM Author: canary trailer park A woman in Germany has been given a harsher sentence than a convicted rapist after she was found guilty of defaming him.
Maja R, a 20-year-old from Hamburg, called him a “disgraceful rapist pig” and a “disgusting freak”, defamatory under German law.
He was one of nine attackers who gang-raped a 15-year-old girl in a Hamburg park in 2020, in a case that shocked the city.
Maja R was sentenced to a weekend in jail for her verbal attacks. The rapist was given a suspended sentence and served no prison time due to his age.
The sentence has sparked anger over what critics see as the flaws in Germany’s judicial system, with disproportionate punishment for defamation.
An area of undergrowth and earth before a chain fence in a park A 15-year-old girl was repeated raped in this Hamburg park - Newsflash Maja R expressed her disgust in a direct message to one of the gang-rapists via WhatsApp, after his name and number were leaked on Snapchat. She told the court she sent her message to him “without thinking twice”.
“Aren’t you ashamed when you look in the mirror?” she asked, calling him a “disgraceful rapist pig” and a “disgusting freak”.
She also told the criminal that he “couldn’t go anywhere without getting kicked in the face” and said, “let’s hope you are just locked away”.
Nine men and boys
The man was one of nine men and boys convicted of raping a 15-year-old in the bushes of a Hamburg park over a number of hours in Sept 2020.
All were under 20 at the time, allowing them to be subject to juvenile law. Only one of them spent any time in jail, an Iranian national, who was 19 years old at the time, though it’s not clear why. Speaking about the rape in court, he asked: “What man doesn’t want that?”
The rest of the attackers, including the one defamed by Maja R, were given suspended sentences. Anne Meier-Goering, the presiding judge, lamented during the trial that “none of the defendants said a word of regret”.
Maja R was sentenced to a weekend in jail after her comments because she had a previous conviction for theft and had not attending the court hearing for the case.
She apologised to the young man she had contacted, telling the court “it didn’t help anyone”. She added that she wanted to go back to school and study to become a paediatric nurse.
Mild slurs
The case has laid bare Germany’s harsh defamation laws, which criminalise causing offence with even mild slurs like “idiot”. Breaking the law can lead to punishment of up to two years in prison.
The district court said it had received strong reactions over the rulings in both the defamation case and the rape trial which prompted it.
Hamburg authorities are now investigating around 140 more suspects for insulting or threatening the gang rapists, with 100 of the suspects based outside Hamburg.
A court spokesman told the Hamburger Abendblatt local newspaper last week: “We are observing the hostility in connection with the proceedings and the verdict with great concern.”
He said the anger over the case had “reached a new, worrying level of intensity” and described the criticism as “a targeted attack on the rule of law”. |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 6:09 PM Author: canary trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49106634) |
Date: July 16th, 2025 2:54 AM Author: canary trailer park "migrant frustration" was cited as a mitigating factor in the judge's decision to let the 8 men go free from charges of gang-raping a 15 year old girl for several hours straight picture of the judge: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS5ymqZfj1YSegP1nLG7RqoQUOj3QoPN8qhow&s |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:57 AM Author: slimy hot lay Is this flame? Tell me this is flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49104989) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:05 AM Author: canary trailer park https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-woman-given-harsher-sentence-155055252.html sorry buddy |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:12 AM Author: canary trailer park there have been a few cases in the news as of late about german citizens being successfully prosecuted on a defamation basis and subsequently given fines or even sentences or probation type deals for things as mild as calling politicians "dumbasses" or "morons" it's mentioned in that article briefly but the senior citizen who called the head of the Greens/A90 an "idiot" online had his home raided by armed police |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 6:16 PM Author: irate comical forum patrolman 15 year old girl: I was gang raped for hours. German justice system: who cares |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 6:18 PM Author: Wine national scourge upon the earth U can snatch a 15yo girl off the street gangrape in a park & go home, Meanwhile if I file the wrong document at work or make a minor error I get put on notice to be fired and made homeless / jobless
money is all that matters to anyone, nothing ties us together at all, its no surprise |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 6:20 PM Author: Flushed out-of-control stain These shitskin savages need to be hunted and killed in the fucking streets. Wake up Europe, race war now! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49106793) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 7:10 PM Author: Lascivious plaza It was over a year ago and there was a huge negative reaction to it, so it's not like this is typical. But yeah, obviously a totally crazy result.
Criminal justice issues are one area where I have a hard time understanding the German way of doing things. It's not just Germany or even Europe, though - Equador *released* a serial killer who murdered hundreds of children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_L%C3%B3pez_(serial_killer)
Can't even begin to understand how that happened. |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 7:11 PM Author: Lascivious plaza In an interview shortly before his release, López described himself as "the man of the century" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49107010) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 7:17 PM Author: irate comical forum patrolman > The Ayacuchoans stripped López of his clothes and belongings and buried him in the sand. However, an American missionary convinced them to release López and turn him over to the police. The police did not detain López...
A bit on the nose. |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 7:48 PM Author: startling razzmatazz knife He was released at the end of his sentence. AKA, behold, the majesty of the Law.
"Later, in 1980, López was convicted of murder and sentenced to 16 years in prison, the maximum prison sentence available in Ecuador at the time." |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:21 PM Author: pale home In the USA, on balance, we tolerate insane levels of criminality Germans would consider unthinkable. They are high trust to a degree unthinkable anywhere in America, period. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49107293) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:24 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK The conviction rate for homicides in most US cities is like 25%. In Baltimore the city is too small for them assemble an anonymous jury. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49107634) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 7:52 PM Author: saffron free-loading trump supporter set germans are subhuman autists (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49107207) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 7:57 PM Author: tripping nursing home place of business Death penalty for mock/defame/threaten in Germany. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49107221) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:04 PM Author: Excitant indigo puppy address To be fair, their tort system (or equivalent thereof) is 40-50x more sane than that of the US. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49107249) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:10 PM Author: pale home They have always brought to sanity to every legal code they've established. The Visigothic code eschews every legal debate the Romans ever had and just says "here's the new code," and it makes more sense than Roman law. It must have vaporized the legal profession in Rome at that time.
What we forget in our society is that the original "courts" were religious institutions. Law can't be divorced from that even if we try. Our obedience to "judges" originates in our obedience to priests, always will. |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:06 PM Author: pale home It's superior to the US legal system in every conceivable way, and based on an intellectual tradition that was widely reflected in New York State law until well into the 19th century. The anti-federalists would have understood it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49107257) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:13 PM Author: lavender buck-toothed bawdyhouse is there any topic on which you don’t have a strikingly confident, flabbergastingly wrong hot take (coated in an incomprehensible faux-academic patina)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49107273) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:19 PM Author: irate comical forum patrolman If there were, how disappointed would we all be (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49107286) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:06 PM Author: titillating demanding dilemma athletic conference germans have something fundamentally wrong with them that's difficult to impossible to appreciate unless you're german
i'm german btw |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:13 PM Author: pale home Their legal system has NEVER been a source of complaint for as long as anyone's been writing about Germanic peoples. Tacitus said they had laws against the major offenses AND the minor offenses, and that justice was administered harshly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49107274) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:20 PM Author: flickering school yeah, (((Germans))) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49107292) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:16 PM Author: pale home PS if you include "German" to include authors such as Grotius and Pufendorf, they were far more influential on western legal development over the last 500 years than any birdshit from England or the USA. To the extent they got replaced by anyone in Europe it was KANT, another German. They were never impressed with anyone who couldn't write in Latin (e.g. Locke) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49107283) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:19 PM Author: pale home Dat "revised Latin edition"
Leviathan or The Matter, Forme and Power of a Commonwealth Ecclesiasticall and Civil, commonly referred to as Leviathan, is a book by the English philosopher Thomas Hobbes (1588–1679), published in 1651 (revised Latin edition 1668)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_(Hobbes_book) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: flickering school Europe is Epstein island for niggers and muds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750898&forum_id=2],#49107369) |
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