Germany's legal system is deranged
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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:53 AM Author: canary trailer park
A woman in Germany has been given a harsher sentence than a convicted rapist after she was found guilty of defaming him.
Maja R, a 20-year-old from Hamburg, called him a “disgraceful rapist pig” and a “disgusting freak”, defamatory under German law.
He was one of nine attackers who gang-raped a 15-year-old girl in a Hamburg park in 2020, in a case that shocked the city.
Maja R was sentenced to a weekend in jail for her verbal attacks. The rapist was given a suspended sentence and served no prison time due to his age.
The sentence has sparked anger over what critics see as the flaws in Germany’s judicial system, with disproportionate punishment for defamation.
An area of undergrowth and earth before a chain fence in a park
A 15-year-old girl was repeated raped in this Hamburg park - Newsflash
Maja R expressed her disgust in a direct message to one of the gang-rapists via WhatsApp, after his name and number were leaked on Snapchat. She told the court she sent her message to him “without thinking twice”.
“Aren’t you ashamed when you look in the mirror?” she asked, calling him a “disgraceful rapist pig” and a “disgusting freak”.
She also told the criminal that he “couldn’t go anywhere without getting kicked in the face” and said, “let’s hope you are just locked away”.
Nine men and boys
The man was one of nine men and boys convicted of raping a 15-year-old in the bushes of a Hamburg park over a number of hours in Sept 2020.
All were under 20 at the time, allowing them to be subject to juvenile law. Only one of them spent any time in jail, an Iranian national, who was 19 years old at the time, though it’s not clear why. Speaking about the rape in court, he asked: “What man doesn’t want that?”
The rest of the attackers, including the one defamed by Maja R, were given suspended sentences. Anne Meier-Goering, the presiding judge, lamented during the trial that “none of the defendants said a word of regret”.
Maja R was sentenced to a weekend in jail after her comments because she had a previous conviction for theft and had not attending the court hearing for the case.
She apologised to the young man she had contacted, telling the court “it didn’t help anyone”. She added that she wanted to go back to school and study to become a paediatric nurse.
Mild slurs
The case has laid bare Germany’s harsh defamation laws, which criminalise causing offence with even mild slurs like “idiot”. Breaking the law can lead to punishment of up to two years in prison.
The district court said it had received strong reactions over the rulings in both the defamation case and the rape trial which prompted it.
Hamburg authorities are now investigating around 140 more suspects for insulting or threatening the gang rapists, with 100 of the suspects based outside Hamburg.
A court spokesman told the Hamburger Abendblatt local newspaper last week: “We are observing the hostility in connection with the proceedings and the verdict with great concern.”
He said the anger over the case had “reached a new, worrying level of intensity” and described the criticism as “a targeted attack on the rule of law”.
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Date: July 16th, 2025 6:18 PM Author: Wine national scourge upon the earth
U can snatch a 15yo girl off the street gangrape in a park & go home, Meanwhile if I file the wrong document at work or make a minor error I get put on notice to be fired and made homeless / jobless
money is all that matters to anyone, nothing ties us together at all, its no surprise
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Date: July 16th, 2025 7:10 PM Author: Lascivious plaza
It was over a year ago and there was a huge negative reaction to it, so it's not like this is typical. But yeah, obviously a totally crazy result.
Criminal justice issues are one area where I have a hard time understanding the German way of doing things. It's not just Germany or even Europe, though - Equador *released* a serial killer who murdered hundreds of children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_L%C3%B3pez_(serial_killer)
Can't even begin to understand how that happened.
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:06 PM Author: titillating demanding dilemma athletic conference
germans have something fundamentally wrong with them that's difficult to impossible to appreciate unless you're german
i'm german btw
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:19 PM Author: pale home
Dat "revised Latin edition"
Leviathan or The Matter, Forme and Power of a Commonwealth Ecclesiasticall and Civil, commonly referred to as Leviathan, is a book by the English philosopher Thomas Hobbes (1588–1679), published in 1651 (revised Latin edition 1668)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_(Hobbes_book)
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