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Couldn't you fire "dummy missiles" alongside real ones to overwhelm defenses?

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in the...
Motley associate
  06/18/25
Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the co...
red wild sanctuary
  06/18/25
...
Amber Big Chapel
  06/18/25
Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet...
Motley associate
  06/18/25
What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does...
Opaque zippy office
  06/18/25
They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket...
Carnelian karate
  06/18/25
You can answer the question now
Opaque zippy office
  06/18/25
So this is actually an idea which people have used. The ide...
red wild sanctuary
  06/18/25
Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.
Opaque zippy office
  06/18/25
What if they use lawnmower drones?
Opaque zippy office
  06/18/25
Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then sh...
walnut electric resort
  06/18/25
...
Motley associate
  06/18/25
Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?
arrogant halford heaven
  06/18/25
Yes
red wild sanctuary
  06/19/25
just trebuchet hot boulders
Cerise Space
  06/18/25
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violent lavender crackhouse pistol
  06/18/25
(Bobby Birdshit)
swollen bearded ticket booth philosopher-king
  06/18/25
Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release ...
Mind-boggling Address Factory Reset Button
  06/18/25
No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and...
Opaque zippy office
  06/18/25
Man think disabled people have it hard enough
Motley associate
  06/18/25
This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.
federal principal's office private investor
  06/19/25


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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:49 PM
Author: Motley associate

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in them along with some that do, AA doesn't know the difference. Am I some insanely smart war strategist or what? Why doesn't Iran do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029366)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: red wild sanctuary

Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the cost of the rocket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029376)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Amber Big Chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029382)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: Motley associate

Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029414)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: Opaque zippy office

What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does it still require engineering you can barely fathom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029418)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Carnelian karate

They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket. You could just fill the explosives chamber with rocks or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029430)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: Opaque zippy office

You can answer the question now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029456)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: red wild sanctuary

So this is actually an idea which people have used. The idea is to overwhelm the defenses by sending a lot of dumber, low cost munitions, but sending a dummy makes no sense economically. At some point there are not enough anti-missile weapons to stop them all. This is why drones can be effective; send thousands to the same place you can’t shoot them all down (in theory — shoot drones is pretty easy with a gun based defense, but there are range issues).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029477)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:49 PM
Author: Opaque zippy office

Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030279)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Opaque zippy office

What if they use lawnmower drones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029458)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: walnut electric resort

Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then shoot them out of the real one once it gets close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029498)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: Motley associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029596)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:40 PM
Author: arrogant halford heaven

Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030056)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: red wild sanctuary

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49031438)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: Cerise Space

just trebuchet hot boulders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030054)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: violent lavender crackhouse pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030068)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: swollen bearded ticket booth philosopher-king

(Bobby Birdshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49029422)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Address Factory Reset Button

Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release as they fly over high ADA regions. Supposedly some of the early Russian missile strikes in 2022 included completely inert iskander missiles whose explosive payloads were substituted entirely by decoys. This allowed them to fire volleys and have significantly more decoys to overwhelm air defenses, exactly as you suggested.

https://en.topcor.ru/24483-nyt-uznal-o-zapuskaemyh-rossiej-lozhnyh-celjah-vmeste-s-raketami-iskander-m.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030052)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:51 PM
Author: Opaque zippy office

No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and 48 hours later poasters are saying it costs nothing to add a warhead. Guess Judaism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030286)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:52 PM
Author: Motley associate

Man think disabled people have it hard enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49030291)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: federal principal's office private investor

This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2],#49031415)