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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Cerebral lay corn cake
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
coral duck-like becky
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Excitant idea he suggested stage
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
coral duck-like becky
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Excitant idea he suggested stage
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
ebony principal's office dragon
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Dark comical background story kitty cat
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
coral duck-like becky
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Multi-colored market factory reset button
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Pink vibrant parlor
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Brindle azn
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
coral duck-like becky
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Brindle azn
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Brindle azn
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
coral duck-like becky
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Godawful ocher laser beams
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
coral duck-like becky
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
coral duck-like becky
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
coral duck-like becky
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Arousing blue pisswyrm box office
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
boyish crystalline sanctuary new version
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Multi-colored market factory reset button
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
coral duck-like becky
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Cerebral lay corn cake
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
coral duck-like becky
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Infuriating theater sex offender
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Provocative house haunted graveyard
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
iridescent passionate lodge immigrant
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Cerebral lay corn cake
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Glittery Wild Stag Film
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
coral duck-like becky
  06/26/25
...
cream address
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Judgmental boltzmann
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
dun outnumbered stain
  06/26/25
...
walnut clown
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
irradiated public bath liquid oxygen
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
learning disabled dog poop toaster
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
indecent mad-dog skullcap
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
coral duck-like becky
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
learning disabled dog poop toaster
  06/27/25
How was penn?
coral duck-like becky
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Multi-colored market factory reset button
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Pink vibrant parlor
  06/27/25
...
coral duck-like becky
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Zippy Depressive Step-uncle's House
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
learning disabled dog poop toaster
  06/27/25
...
Laughsome Party Of The First Part Space
  06/27/25
...
coral duck-like becky
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
indecent mad-dog skullcap
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Pink vibrant parlor
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
red station gay wizard
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Multi-colored market factory reset button
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Judgmental boltzmann
  06/27/25
...
Big brunch queen of the night
  06/27/25
...
Multi-colored market factory reset button
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Cerebral lay corn cake

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: coral duck-like becky

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Excitant idea he suggested stage

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: coral duck-like becky

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Excitant idea he suggested stage

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: ebony principal's office dragon

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Dark comical background story kitty cat

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: coral duck-like becky

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Multi-colored market factory reset button

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Pink vibrant parlor

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Brindle azn

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: coral duck-like becky

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Brindle azn

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Brindle azn

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: coral duck-like becky

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Godawful ocher laser beams

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: coral duck-like becky

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: coral duck-like becky

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: coral duck-like becky

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Arousing blue pisswyrm box office

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: boyish crystalline sanctuary new version

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Multi-colored market factory reset button

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: coral duck-like becky

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Cerebral lay corn cake

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: coral duck-like becky

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Infuriating theater sex offender

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Provocative house haunted graveyard

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: iridescent passionate lodge immigrant

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Cerebral lay corn cake

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Glittery Wild Stag Film

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: coral duck-like becky

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: cream address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Judgmental boltzmann

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: dun outnumbered stain

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: walnut clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: irradiated public bath liquid oxygen

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: learning disabled dog poop toaster

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: indecent mad-dog skullcap

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: coral duck-like becky

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: learning disabled dog poop toaster

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: coral duck-like becky

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Multi-colored market factory reset button

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Pink vibrant parlor

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: coral duck-like becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Zippy Depressive Step-uncle's House

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: learning disabled dog poop toaster

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Laughsome Party Of The First Part Space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: coral duck-like becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: indecent mad-dog skullcap

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Pink vibrant parlor

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: red station gay wizard

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Multi-colored market factory reset button

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Judgmental boltzmann

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Big brunch queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Multi-colored market factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053817)