The middle class go through their savings then get dumped in a Medicaid nursing home, the poor go straight there. They’re basically left alone there neglected until they die of bed sores and unchanged clothing by uncaring illegals and mud creatures

Horrifying fate and no one in (((america))) talks about it

In the third world all the old people live with their families

Apparently Japan, Norway, Sweden, Denmark have decent old age solutions, but that’s just because those are/were homogenous high trust societies which are all going down the shitter too

Lmao

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they could be wandering around under bridges eating trash until they keel over

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just did some work for a nice retirement place - ai/automation integration. $250k upfront and monthly fee is the base entry point. insane waiting lists

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The cheapest way to spend your golden years is probably in an assisted living group home. I got my sister into one of these. It did not take Medicaid. 10 years ago it was $3K/month for a private room in a large house in an upscale tract neighborhood. Full time staff and meals included. Assisted living in a facility with a private apartment is probably $6-15K depending upon the area and niceness.

Wife and I are trying to figure out what to do if we fail to drop dead on schedule.

Wife's sister has dementia and is a facility where almost everyone is on Medicaid. It's actually not bad physically, but there are no activities. Her husband takes her out almost every day. Otherwise she would sit and stare at the wall.

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i really just need to wander off into the forest if i get to that point

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMDsUdhymbQ

we're supposed to die at home from the flu that we caught from our grandkids, or from some stupid infection that gets into our blood stream, or from cancer that we didn't notice until the very end. modern medicine and the medical industrial complex have completely perverted our relationship with death. i know everyone voluntarily signs up for all this shit, but you can't expect the average person to say no. it's incredibly abusive and wasteful and inhumane and no one can stop it.

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there is a way to stop it, but that's another story

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it totally sucks for them and i feel emotionally sorry for them, but none of these people should exist. you're supposed to die when you get old, not become an invalid and an anchor for the young and healthy and virile and productive. this is really a moral issue that everyone should be concerned with. one of the reasons why the western world is deteriorating so badly is because old people have so much disproportional power and influence and will not just fucking get out of the way and die like they're supposed to

modern technology keeping people alive as the walking dead in order to make more monopoly money off them is truly grotesque in so many ways

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one can speculate that maybe a different society, a different culture, a different people might prepare themselves better for the terror at the end, but that's fantasy

we'll all continue to suffer horribly for years before we finally die

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people in the past had different understandings of and relationships to death because of their environments and circumstances

this is one of the most complex and difficult topics and questions that exists for human beings. it's not simple at all

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you might as well claim that young women in 1550s italy didn't fly to machu picchu because of their values

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no you idiot. the problem is us and it's always been us.

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It's no surprise people in the west have trouble dealing with it, it's not in our tradition to accept death.

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One grandparent I had died like this, another one was well on their way until they got into an accident (caused by an illegal) and then spent the next 5 or so years in agonizing pain becoming crippled.

I've also seen some crazy shit...like an old guy I knew who lived across the hall from me was basically all alone, and slowly dying of stomach cancer. I think his wife had died or he was a lifelong bachelor maybe.

Towards the end he fell a couple times and I could hear him calling for help. I got the fire department to help him...I remember vividly once in his piss smelling apartment (he kept the door unlocked). It was crazy. Just huge stacks of pill bottles in buckets of KFC everywhere on top of random clutter.

I think as you get older and if you don't have people in your life taking care of you or a strong community it makes a lot of sense to sell off/donate possessions you don't need or use...because eventually the hoarder instinct takes over or you simply cant keep track of the stuff you have.

Also from what I've noticed, even if you do every single thing right health wise, as a man after the age of 90 your body starts to completely fail you. I'd consider myself lucky if I had the same health I have now and just dropped dead on my 91st birthday.

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