It's unreal how badly the GOP fucked up this Supreme Court vacancy
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Date: March 16th, 2016 7:53 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Clear Casino
Within hours of Scalia's death they began insisting they wouldn't hold hearings for any nominee because the next president would have to decide. Obama nominates a guy he previously rejected because he was too old and too moderate. The joke about Garland was that if he ever wanted a Supreme Court seat he better hope for a Republican Senate and he's far more moderate than Kagan and Sotomayor. So the Senate is going to have to dick around and reject an old white moderate for seven months while every Democrat gets to run on an issue on which 67 percent of Americans agree that hearings should be held.
If they had simply said they would do their job and consider him and then "advise and CONSENT" they would have kept all their options open. If Hillary is leading in October they are going to be begging to confirm Garland because she can appoint anyone she wants, GOP Senate or not, and argue that the GOP Senate agreed the next president should decide.
But if the GOP holds firm they may lose the Senate and Ted Cruz is currently attacking Donald Trump as the guy who would nominate someone like Garland. This is just hilarious and the most egregious political blunder I've ever seen in my life. They've extinguished their optionality and if they hold firm they will end up regretting it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3167405&forum_id=2],#30073913) |
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Date: March 16th, 2016 8:29 PM Author: Sinister nursing home
You idiot.
The argument was never that it was racist because a MINORITY wasn't getting an UP or DOWN vote.
The problem is that the fucking Republicans are REFUSING to vote on the Black President's nominee before Scalia's fucking body could get cold.
The same way they've blatantly disrespected him and obstructed his Presidency from day 1.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3167405&forum_id=2],#30074267) |
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Date: March 16th, 2016 8:37 PM Author: Sinister nursing home
Wow.
You are a fucking idiot if you believe the absolute REFUSAL to carry out their constitutional duty is because Scalia was the "greatest conservative justice" ever.
A complete fucking idiot.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3167405&forum_id=2],#30074339) |
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Date: March 16th, 2016 8:41 PM Author: Sinister nursing home
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/15/us/supreme-court-nominations-election-year-scalia.html?_r=0
"Since 1900, the Senate has voted on eight Supreme Court nominees during an election year. Six were confirmed. But several of those were for seats that had become vacant in the previous year.
The Senate has never taken more than 125 days to vote on a successor from the time of nomination; on average, a nominee has been confirmed, rejected or withdrawn within 25 days. When Justice Antonin Scalia died, 342 days remained in President Obama’s term."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3167405&forum_id=2],#30074366)
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Date: March 16th, 2016 8:52 PM Author: multi-colored immigrant
Non responsive
Provide me an example of the following and I may believe you:
(1) a SCOTUS justice who died as late into the final months of a president's term as Scalia did in Obama's
(2) the justice was of a judicial leaning opposite of the president's/was a swing vote
(3) the senate was controlled by the party opposing the president
(4) the senate nevertheless approved the nominee
Show me THAT and you might be onto something
Otherwise shut the fuck up
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3167405&forum_id=2],#30074460) |
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Date: March 17th, 2016 1:32 AM Author: Twisted pearl party of the first part
Here are the possible scenarios for how this goes down:
1. GOP senate refuses to hold confirmation hearings and a floor vote. (Already looking like this ain't happening -- McConnell's blockade started crumbling as soon as Garland was nominated.)
2a. Post-11/8/16, Dem WH + Dem Senate -- GOP senate scrambles to confirm Garland during Nov/Dec 2016, before the GOP loses control of the Senate on 1/3/17. This may or may not succeed: right-wing senators won't vote for Garland and left-wing senators won't either, believing new Dem POTUS should name successor.
2b. Post-11/8/16, Dem WH + SIGNIFICANTLY DIMINISHED GOP Senate -- New Dem POTUS follows Obama playbook and Garland gets approved.
3a. Post-11/8/16, GOP WH + Dem Senate -- Dems filibuster WH nominee for as long as they feel like.
3b. Post-11/8/16, GOP WH + GOP Senate -- POTUS nominee confirmed by GOP Senate.
In literally only the last option -- which is BY FAR the most unlikely situation -- will anything resembling "reptiles are going to reject this old white piece of shit and shitlibs won't care" come to pass.
Rather, 2a and 2b are the most likely outcomes by a rather wide margin.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3167405&forum_id=2],#30076710) |
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Date: March 17th, 2016 1:40 AM Author: Twisted pearl party of the first part
So I guess you and them will be content with Justice Laquisha Angelou-Jones being confirmed Q2 2017? Cool.
Hope this helps you returning from your impotent rage-filled break from reality: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3167405&forum_id=2#30076760
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3167405&forum_id=2],#30076768)
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Date: March 17th, 2016 2:05 AM Author: Twisted pearl party of the first part
Lol, you started with the hostility.
Anyways,I'd give you a backhanded compliment but you're a quotemo, so never mind.
Protip: autistically shrieking "HE DOESNT PROTECT THE SECOND AMENDMENT" doesn't amount to fuck-all, and it won't change that Scalia's replacement won't GAF about gun rights.
Idk why I'm arguing about this. I could honestly care less out the case outcomes going forward, but you're spouting some seriously inane bullshit itt. Sorry, just calling it like I see it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3167405&forum_id=2],#30076901) |
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Date: March 17th, 2016 2:32 AM Author: Twisted pearl party of the first part
It's not necessary. Sorry if I was unclear. Lame ducks are very chaotic, so the chances of holding a multi-day confirm hearing during lame duck is potentially logistically dicey.
GOP senate could hod hearings sooner than that, but then McConnell et al lose a lot of face in terms of going back on his blockage promise. This will make the Freedom Caucusers (even more) angry with him.
Realistically, GOP could look at election projections ins Sept/Oct, say o fuck, and hold the hearing then. Still a renege, but at least they are well positioned for the post-election result lame duck session.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3167405&forum_id=2],#30077064) |
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Date: March 17th, 2016 1:34 AM Author: Twisted pearl party of the first part
(These are not my cites, fwiw)
Laura Reston & Emma Foehringer Merchant, Why Merrick Garland Is the Moderate’s Choice for the Supreme Court, THE NEW REPUBLIC (Mar. 16, 2016), available at https://newrepublic.com/article/131680/merrick-garland-moderates-choice-supreme-court
Kathleen Hennessey, Obama nominates Merrick Garland for Supreme Court, ASSOC. PRESS (Mar. 16, 2016, 7:37 PM EDT), available at http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6fe101b4bef54f989d939bccc81873fc/obama-ive-made-my-decision-supreme-court-nominee (observing that Garland’s nominations “thrust[s] a respected moderate jurist and former prosecutor into the center of an election-year clash over the future of the nation's highest court”)
Pam Vogel, Conservatives Have Been Praising Merrick Garland For Years, MEDIA MATTERS (Mar. 16, 2016), available at http://mm4a.org/1LqLUms (citing myriad examples of conservatives’ respect and admiration for Garland)
Cortney O’Brien, Is Garland Really ‘The Most Conservative’ SCOTUS Nominee Ever Made by a Dem President?, TOWN HALL (Mar. 16, 2016), available at http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2016/03/16/is-garland-really-the-most-conservative-scotus-nominee-ever-made-by-a-dem-president-n2134766 (“Judge Andrew Napolitano called Merrick Garland ‘the most conservative’ nominee to the Supreme Court ever presented by a Democratic president in the modern era . . . but some analysts predict President Obama purposely chose a moderate candidate to tie Republican lawmakers’ hands.”)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3167405&forum_id=2],#30076735) |
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Date: March 17th, 2016 1:39 AM Author: Twisted pearl party of the first part
Sen. Orrin Hatch: Obama Could "Easily Name Merrick Garland, Who Is A Fine Man," To The Supreme Court. On March 13, days before Garland's nomination, Newsmax reported that Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) had noted in his speculation on the impending Supreme Court nomination that the president "could easily name Merrick Garland" to fill the court vacancy:
>> Prior to Hatch's address to a packed luncheon in Washington DC hosted by the Federalist Society, we asked him if he felt the White House would select a nominee who is black or Hispanic to cause election-year difficulty for Republicans who oppose any Obama nomination on the grounds that the next President should fill the court vacancy.
"He could be headed in that direction," replied Hatch who has served as either chairman or ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee from 1993-2005, "This [nomination process] is all about the election."
"The President told me several times he's going to name a moderate [to fill the court vacancy], but I don't believe him," Hatch told us.
"[Obama] could easily name Merrick Garland, who is a fine man," he told us, referring to the more centrist chief judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals of the District of Columbia who was considered and passed over for the two previous high court vacancies.
But, Hatch quickly added, "He probably won't do that because this appointment is about the election. So I'm pretty sure he'll name someone the [liberal Democratic base] wants." [Newsmax.com, 3/13/16] <<
Sen. Hatch In 2010: Garland Would Be "A Consensus Nominee." In May 2010, Hatch publicly supported a potential Garland nomination to the Supreme Court, as reported by Reuters:
>> A Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee said on Thursday he would help moderate jurist Merrick Garland win Senate confirmation if President Barack Obama nominated him to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Senator Orrin Hatch said he had known the federal appeals court judge, seen as a leading contender for the Supreme Court, for years and that he would be "a consensus nominee."
Asked if Garland would win Senate confirmation with bipartisan support, Hatch told Reuters, "No question."
"I have no doubts that Garland would get a lot of (Senate) votes. And I will do my best to help him get them," added Hatch, a former Judiciary Committee chairman. [Reuters, 5/6/10] <<
Conservative Operative Curt Levey In 2012: Senate "Armageddon" Would Occur If Obama Nominated Anyone "To The Left Of Merrick Garland." In a 2012 Wall Street Journal article highlighting the likelihood that Obama would have the opportunity to appoint another Supreme Court justice in his second term, conservative operative Curt Levey, then the president of the defunct Committee for Justice, speculated that, should the president have to replace "Scalia or Kennedy," the Senate would unleash an "Armageddon" on any nominee "to the left of Merrick Garland":
>> On Sunday, Curt Levey, president of the Committee for Justice, a Washington, D.C., conservative legal group, emailed followers a warning headlined "Obama Court Nightmares," illustrated with a 1957 Time magazine cover featuring Chief Justice Earl Warren. Although himself a Republican appointed by Dwight Eisenhower, Chief Justice Warren's court handed down a raft of liberal decisions beginning with Brown v. Board of Education, which abolished school segregation. In his 2008 campaign, Mr. Obama cited Chief Justice Warren, who had been California governor and attorney general but never a judge, as exemplifying the experience he thought belonged on the Supreme Court.
Wednesday, Mr. Levey said conservatives are determined to prevent Mr. Obama from "giving us another Warren Court."
Because Republicans lost the presidential election and a couple of Senate seats, Mr. Levey said Mr. Obama was entitled to "a lot of deference" should he wish to replace Justice Ginsburg or another liberal with a like-minded nominee.
"But if it's replacing [Justice Antonin] Scalia or [Justice Anthony] Kennedy, then we're really talking Armageddon"--a filibuster that could grind Washington to a halt--should the president nominate "anyone to the left of Merrick Garland," Mr. Levey said. Judge Garland, who was considered for the earlier vacancies in Mr. Obama's term, is a former Justice Department official who prosecuted the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, and Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh before President Bill Clinton appointed him to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. [The Wall Street Journal, 11/8/12] <<
National Review's Ed Whelan In 2010: Garland Has "A Very Good Reputation Among His Conservative Colleagues." On the April 16, 2010, episode of EWTN's The World Over, National Review legal blogger Ed Whalen, president of the conservative Ethics & Public Policy Center, praised Garland's "reputation" among conservatives, saying:
>> RAYMOND ARROYO: Let's talk about Merrick Garland. He serves here in Washington, D.C., on the Circuit Court of Appeals here. He's the moderate of the bunch, or so we here. Tell us about him.
ED WHELAN: Well, Merrick Garland has been on the D.C. Circuit Court since the late 90s. He also was appointed by President Clinton. He has earned, I think it's fair to say, a very good reputation among his conservative colleagues and there's nothing glaring in his record. I have no illusions that if he's appointed he would help move the court in the right direction, you know, at most move it more slowly in the wrong direction, but I think as the candidates who are being talked about, he's probably the best of the bunch, though I emphasize "the candidates being talked about," that's quite a limited --
ARROYO: Yeah, that's a rotten bunch, is what you're saying.
WHELAN: Yeah. [EWTN, The World Over, 4/16/10] <<
Whelan To Wash. Post In 2010: Garland Has "Earned The Respect Of A Range Of Folks, Including Conservatives." Reporting on speculation about a nominee to replace then-retiring Justice John Paul Stevens in April 2010, The Washington Post quoted Whelan describing Garland's merits:
>> Among his friends are some of the capital's most powerful Democratic operatives, as well as conservatives such as Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and D.C. Circuit colleagues Laurence H. Silberman and David Sentelle. Some of the conservative judges, Republican sources say, have quietly sent their GOP friends a message: Don't attack Garland.
If conservatives were choosing a nominee, Garland "would be nowhere on the list," said Ed Whelan, president of the conservative Ethics and Public Policy Center, but Garland compares favorably with other candidates President Obama might consider.
"He's earned the respect of a range of folks, including conservatives, and I think he is the most likely to exercise judicial restraint," Whelan said. [The Washington Post, 4/23/10] <<
Judicial Crisis Network's Carrie Severino In 2010: A Garland Nomination Would Be "The Best Scenario We Could Hope For" In Terms Of Bipartisanship. In the same April 2010 Washington Post article, chief counsel to the discredited right-wing Judicial Crisis Network Carrie Severino said that a Garland nomination to the court would be the "best scenario we could hope for" to bring about bipartisan support:
>> Carrie Severino of the conservative Judicial Crisis Network said Garland may be far more liberal than his rulings indicate because he has not yet publicly staked out his position on issues such as abortion.
"But of those the president could nominate, we could do a lot worse than Merrick Garland," Severino said. "He's the best scenario we could hope for to bring the tension and the politics in the city down a notch for the summer." [The Washington Post, 4/23/10] <<
Whelan And Levey In 2010: "Love Fest" Would Follow A Garland Nomination. In an April 2010 article in New York magazine discussing potential replacements for Stevens, Ed Whelan and Curt Levey said of a potential Garland nomination:
>> A consummate Beltway insider, Garland clerked for William Brennan, worked as a litigation partner at Arnold & Porter, and served in the Carter, Bush 41, and Clinton administrations; in the last of those gigs, he oversaw the Oklahoma City bombing case. Since he ascended to the bench, Garland has won many fans, Republicans among them, with his careful opinions and lack of overt ideological bias. Garland counts Roberts, with whom he clerked as a young man, as a friend. Orrin Hatch has sung his praises. Ed Whelan, a former Bush 43 Justice Department official, calls him "the best nominee that Republicans could hope for." Right-wing judicial activist Curt Levey adds, "You'll have, if not a love fest, something close to it if [the choice is] a Garland." [New York, 4/23/10] <<
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Date: January 31st, 2017 5:14 PM Author: jet-lagged puppy
It previously tried calling me out, but got stomped.
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3332647&mc=23&forum_id=2
And I didn't know it made this thread, because it frequently switches monikers, like our handful of shitlibs. But LOL at trying to call anyone out for low IQ given the poasts he made ITT.
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Date: January 31st, 2017 10:31 PM Author: Curious topaz sweet tailpipe
Cot damn. Grow a beard OP
The smugger the shitlib, the more wrong they are
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Date: July 20th, 2017 10:55 AM Author: sick odious blood rage
I love this line so much...
"They've extinguished their optionality and if they hold firm they will end up regretting it."
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Date: September 25th, 2017 6:07 PM Author: Violent onyx crackhouse wrinkle
Just in case someone hasn't done it already
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Date: March 16th, 2016 7:53 PM
Author: U Bum.
Within hours of Scalia's death they began insisting they wouldn't hold hearings for any nominee because the next president would have to decide. Obama nominates a guy he previously rejected because he was too old and too moderate. The joke about Garland was that if he ever wanted a Supreme Court seat he better hope for a Republican Senate and he's far more moderate than Kagan and Sotomayor. So the Senate is going to have to dick around and reject an old white moderate for seven months while every Democrat gets to run on an issue on which 67 percent of Americans agree that hearings should be held.
If they had simply said they would do their job and consider him and then "advise and CONSENT" they would have kept all their options open. If Hillary is leading in October they are going to be begging to confirm Garland because she can appoint anyone she wants, GOP Senate or not, and argue that the GOP Senate agreed the next president should decide.
But if the GOP holds firm they may lose the Senate and Ted Cruz is currently attacking Donald Trump as the guy who would nominate someone like Garland. This is just hilarious and the most egregious political blunder I've ever seen in my life. They've extinguished their optionality and if they hold firm they will end up regretting it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3167405&forum_id=2#30073913)
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Date: May 12th, 2020 11:12 AM Author: out-of-control gas station
https://www.regnery.com/9781684511341/one-vote-away/
One Vote Away
How a Single Supreme Court Seat Can Change History
by Ted Cruz
When Justice Antonin Scalia was found dead in a West Texas hunting lodge, filling his seat on the Supreme Court became a central-and perhaps the deciding-issue in the 2016 presidential election. For many Americans, it was the most important reason to choose Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton.
Americans know that the Supreme Court protects our Constitutional rights-or at least it's supposed to. If controlled by activist judges, however, the Court can gravely damage our basic liberties. And to many, the inner workings of the Court remain a mystery.
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As we head into the 2020 presidential election, the control of the Supreme Court, and with it the fate of our Constitution, hangs in the balance. Senator Cruz's timely and essential book takes readers behind the curtain of America's Highest Court and shows how just one more Justice on either side can preserve our liberties-or destroy them.
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Date: December 1st, 2021 11:48 AM Author: out-of-control gas station
Date: March 16th, 2016 7:53 PM
Author:
Within hours of Scalia's death they began insisting they wouldn't hold hearings for any nominee because the next president would have to decide. Obama nominates a guy he previously rejected because he was too old and too moderate. The joke about Garland was that if he ever wanted a Supreme Court seat he better hope for a Republican Senate and he's far more moderate than Kagan and Sotomayor. So the Senate is going to have to dick around and reject an old white moderate for seven months while every Democrat gets to run on an issue on which 67 percent of Americans agree that hearings should be held.
If they had simply said they would do their job and consider him and then "advise and CONSENT" they would have kept all their options open. If Hillary is leading in October they are going to be begging to confirm Garland because she can appoint anyone she wants, GOP Senate or not, and argue that the GOP Senate agreed the next president should decide.
But if the GOP holds firm they may lose the Senate and Ted Cruz is currently attacking Donald Trump as the guy who would nominate someone like Garland. This is just hilarious and the most egregious political blunder I've ever seen in my life. They've extinguished their optionality and if they hold firm they will end up regretting it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3167405&forum_id=2#30073913)
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