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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Indigo Base
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
adventurous spruce institution
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
adventurous spruce institution
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
alcoholic pocket flask genital piercing
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
carmine sickened persian
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
brindle locus
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
concupiscible dingle berry
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
brass aphrodisiac chapel travel guidebook
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
brass aphrodisiac chapel travel guidebook
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
brass aphrodisiac chapel travel guidebook
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
pale multi-colored macaca
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
ocher pungent abode preventive strike
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Heady indian lodge
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
brindle locus
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Indigo Base
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
excitant famous landscape painting
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Boyish Kitchen Mad-dog Skullcap
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
shimmering ungodly state
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Indigo Base
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
razzle friendly grandma
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/26/25
...
Scarlet comical foreskin place of business
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
maroon bawdyhouse
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
gay duck-like pit sound barrier
  06/26/25
...
Disturbing stirring resort
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
iridescent at-the-ready center lettuce
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Lake vigorous circlehead
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Magenta Shrine
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Lake vigorous circlehead
  06/27/25
How was penn?
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
brindle locus
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
concupiscible dingle berry
  06/27/25
...
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Laughsome sandwich
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Lake vigorous circlehead
  06/27/25
...
Bipolar national
  06/27/25
...
180 parlor liquid oxygen
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Magenta Shrine
  06/27/25
How is STB?
concupiscible dingle berry
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Cheese-eating dilemma voyeur
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
brindle locus
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
maroon bawdyhouse
  06/27/25
...
Contagious Dark Gas Station
  06/27/25
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brindle locus
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Indigo Base

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: adventurous spruce institution

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: adventurous spruce institution

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: alcoholic pocket flask genital piercing

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: carmine sickened persian

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: brindle locus

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: concupiscible dingle berry

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: brass aphrodisiac chapel travel guidebook

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: brass aphrodisiac chapel travel guidebook

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: brass aphrodisiac chapel travel guidebook

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: pale multi-colored macaca

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: ocher pungent abode preventive strike

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Heady indian lodge

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: brindle locus

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Indigo Base

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: excitant famous landscape painting

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Boyish Kitchen Mad-dog Skullcap

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: shimmering ungodly state

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Indigo Base

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: razzle friendly grandma

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Scarlet comical foreskin place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: maroon bawdyhouse

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: gay duck-like pit sound barrier

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Disturbing stirring resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: iridescent at-the-ready center lettuce

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Lake vigorous circlehead

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Magenta Shrine

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Lake vigorous circlehead

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: brindle locus

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: concupiscible dingle berry

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Laughsome sandwich

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Lake vigorous circlehead

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Bipolar national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: 180 parlor liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Magenta Shrine

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: concupiscible dingle berry

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Cheese-eating dilemma voyeur

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: brindle locus

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: maroon bawdyhouse

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Contagious Dark Gas Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: brindle locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053817)