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beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/16/25
The difference in terms of reputation and placement is not a...
beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/16/25
You are the only person making sense in the thread. Wants ...
beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/16/25
lol this guy is suggesting OP has a 38% chance of getting bi...
Doobsian sienna locus rigpig
  05/20/25
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beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/20/25
Studios are all run by aging boomers and/or tech dorks who a...
Self-absorbed rough-skinned location
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beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/20/25
That is some bad advice. I wonder who those people are.
Diverse useless idea he suggested house
  05/20/25
The difference in terms of reputation and placement is not a...
beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/20/25
both Nintendo Switch and Playstation 5 have games
Galvanic stage international law enforcement agency
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hairraiser church building
  05/20/25
sounds like asian wife no matter what
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Adulterous lay
  05/20/25
80% jews wherever you go
Galvanic stage international law enforcement agency
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Overrated Striped Hyena
  05/20/25
Issue with UCLA (and all the back end of the T14, see also U...
Self-absorbed rough-skinned location
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beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/20/25
i think even the bottom t14 is mirror-fogging into biglol th...
fragrant chapel depressive
  05/20/25
Still it has to be a major difference getting an offer at La...
Self-absorbed rough-skinned location
  05/20/25
sure and i'm sure if you want to go into something sexy like...
fragrant chapel depressive
  05/20/25
Still wild to hear about this. The American law firm is such...
Self-absorbed rough-skinned location
  05/20/25
it's the same as health insurance, taxes, etc. the people ma...
fragrant chapel depressive
  05/20/25
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beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/20/25
lol, a school like Cornell is placing ~80% in biglaw these d...
180 gunner dragon
  05/20/25
Whoa wtf!?!? I need to be more judgmental of all of these ju...
Self-absorbed rough-skinned location
  05/20/25
they're all working at pryor cashman
Galvanic stage international law enforcement agency
  05/20/25
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beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/20/25
80% Jews is always the more prestigious and intellectually r...
mint alcoholic site
  05/20/25
i would think an HLS admit would get more money out of UCLA
copper at-the-ready giraffe
  05/20/25
if you haven't been following along, law school admissions h...
beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/20/25
wow
copper at-the-ready giraffe
  05/20/25
https://www.reddit.com/r/lawschooladmissions/s/cnkwJiFqub ...
beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/20/25
Essays: I cannot stress how important I think essays are!!! ...
beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/20/25
My essays, I can say now, without a doubt a probably some of...
Zombie-like autistic twinkling uncleanness sandwich
  05/20/25
My personal statement was deeply tied to my experiences as a...
beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/20/25
lol
crimson clown death wish
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Doobsian sienna locus rigpig
  05/20/25
it's terrifying that this victim mentality is so ingrained i...
fragrant chapel depressive
  05/20/25
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beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/20/25
it's really unbelievable, there's no awareness, no cynicism ...
copper at-the-ready giraffe
  05/20/25
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beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/20/25
jfc what a Joke
fragrant chapel depressive
  05/20/25
and a criminal! "C&F: Not insignificant C&F ...
ruddy multi-colored theatre
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beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
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Scarlet crusty fortuitous meteor reading party
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beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
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Even tho absolutely nobody liked my asian wife joke (which w...
onyx resort macaca
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beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
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brindle passionate principal's office
  05/23/25
You guys mock but i had a friend from undergrad who chose UC...
Nighttime Wrinkle Theater Stage
  05/20/25
film scouts snatch up the tallest, handsomest men from all t...
180 gunner dragon
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brindle passionate principal's office
  05/23/25
harvard and it's not even close you can make up full cost...
Pungent coffee pot
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beady-eyed alcoholic public bath
  05/23/25
most distinguished alum of UCLA: Kirstin Gillibrand most ...
Galvanic stage international law enforcement agency
  05/23/25
This is why you should include where you got admitted in you...
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Date: May 16th, 2025 11:08 AM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath

https://www.reddit.com/r/lawschooladmissions/comments/1knr08u/harvard_sticker_vs_ucla/

It’d be about $80k more for me to attend Harvard (which is close to home for me). UCLA gave me some scholarship (not a lot) but there tuition is generally cheaper x i want to do big law for 3-4 years (in Los Angeles) and then eventually work in house as a GC for an entertainment company. Thoughts? Not to throw all my details out there but This is $160k vs $240k..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48936651)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 11:08 AM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath

The difference in terms of reputation and placement is not as great as some here are suggesting. HLS is currently tied with Duke for #6 in the USNWR rankings. UCLA is ranked #12.

HLS places 67% of grads in law firms and 56% of those in big law (=38%). UCLA places 71% of grads in law firms and 50% of those in big law (=36%).

When you add in entertainment industry and desire to work in LA, it amounts to a fairly compelling argument for UCLA, especially with the price tag differential.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48936653)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 11:08 AM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath

You are the only person making sense in the thread. Wants to work in LA after school but is trying to convince themselves Harvard? 3k miles away. Yes Harvard is better a school, but not by much. The employment outcomes are identical for big law (250-500+ lawyers is top 53% of class for both) yet one is already in LA and you’re getting a scholarship. UCLA would be the best option

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48936655)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: Doobsian sienna locus rigpig

lol this guy is suggesting OP has a 38% chance of getting biglaw out of HLS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946861)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946923)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:57 AM
Author: Self-absorbed rough-skinned location

Studios are all run by aging boomers and/or tech dorks who are all huge prestige whores. Boomers still think of UCLA as basically one step up from community college. See also Scott Galloway talking about how he was a useless burnout in high school and sloughed his way over to UCLA because it had an 80% acceptance rate in the early 80s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946940)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:08 AM
Author: Diverse useless idea he suggested house

That is some bad advice. I wonder who those people are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946806)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath

The difference in terms of reputation and placement is not as great as some here are suggesting. HLS is currently tied with Duke for #6 in the USNWR rankings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946837)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:35 AM
Author: Galvanic stage international law enforcement agency

both Nintendo Switch and Playstation 5 have games

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946862)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: hairraiser church building



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: onyx resort macaca

sounds like asian wife no matter what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946843)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: Adulterous lay



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:32 AM
Author: Galvanic stage international law enforcement agency

80% jews wherever you go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946855)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Overrated Striped Hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946880)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Self-absorbed rough-skinned location

Issue with UCLA (and all the back end of the T14, see also UT, GULC, Cornell) is that it’s hard to get biglaw if you aren’t top 25% or have some other hook (eg want to do IP and have a hard science ug degree, though I hear LLMs may have killed that path). HLS part of what you pay for is the ability to not try at all in lol school, fog a mirror at OCI and have multiple offers from the firms in LA that will only take top 10% from UCLA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946950)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947006)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: fragrant chapel depressive

i think even the bottom t14 is mirror-fogging into biglol these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947011)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:36 AM
Author: Self-absorbed rough-skinned location

Still it has to be a major difference getting an offer at Latham/OMM/MTO/Quinn. The one caveat would be if you have zero LA contacts story. If you just like LA but never lived there and don’t have any family there you might be better off at UCLA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947031)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:39 AM
Author: fragrant chapel depressive

sure and i'm sure if you want to go into something sexy like entertainment law going to HLS helps too. i'm just saying bottom t14 are sleepwalking into biglaw generally. ofc there are still levels and bottom 25% at law centers aren't getting cravath offers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947042)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:50 AM
Author: Self-absorbed rough-skinned location

Still wild to hear about this. The American law firm is such a preposterously bad business model for 95+% of the people working within it and 99+% of its customers. It’s insane to me that it had endured as well as it has while so many other industries with fewer obvious and less pronounced defects are turned upside down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947063)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:58 AM
Author: fragrant chapel depressive

it's the same as health insurance, taxes, etc. the people making the rules have a vested interest in perpetuating the system that employs them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947076)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 8:22 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48949053)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: 180 gunner dragon

lol, a school like Cornell is placing ~80% in biglaw these days. It isn't 2011.

166/196 grads in firms of 250+ or fed clerkship.

https://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Cornell-Law-School-Class-of-2024-ABA-Data-Summary.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947016)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: Self-absorbed rough-skinned location

Whoa wtf!?!? I need to be more judgmental of all of these juniors, then. I’ve been assuming that they got good grades if they were outside the T10 (the real one ie HYSCCNPBVM).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947025)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: Galvanic stage international law enforcement agency

they're all working at pryor cashman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947265)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:38 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48949817)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: mint alcoholic site

80% Jews is always the more prestigious and intellectually rigorous option

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947118)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: copper at-the-ready giraffe

i would think an HLS admit would get more money out of UCLA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946854)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:36 AM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath

if you haven't been following along, law school admissions have jumped the shark.

everyone scores 175+ now that they have gimped the LSAT and people caught onto the "accomodations" game to get 2x time while taking the test at home. average GPAs are like 3.95 because everyone graduating did college from home during COVID when professors handed out As to everyone for signing into zoom and cheating on tests. overall grade inflation is out of control and most people in non-joke majors don't apply to law school at all anymore.

and post affirmative action, your "essays" *wink wink* are where you get your DEI points for "lived experience."

you have white guys with 3.8/177s getting shut out of T6 schools while minorities with 3.6/168 are getting into HYS and making TikTok's lecturing you on how "your essays really matter folks!!! numbers aren't everything!!!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946864)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:39 AM
Author: copper at-the-ready giraffe

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946872)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath

https://www.reddit.com/r/lawschooladmissions/s/cnkwJiFqub

Hispanic + 4.0 in queer studies + 173 with 2x time from home = admitted to every law school with full scholarships

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946906)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:52 AM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath

Essays: I cannot stress how important I think essays are!!! I wrote every single optional essay and why essay. I even visited a couple schools before applying that I knew were really "fit" sensitive. I really think we downplay the importance of essays. Stats get you in the door, but essays seal the deal imo. I have good stats, but I definitely think I outperformed my stats. My essays, I can say now, without a doubt a probably some of the best I've ever written. I really took my time with them and put my heart on my sleeve. My personal statement was deeply tied to my experiences as a FGLI applicant, and I have no regrets really putting my story out there. It was a risk, but I think it paid off. My advice is take your time with your essays so that you can give your writing time to breathe. Take the time to reflect on your experiences to try to build your best and most cohesive narrative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946917)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:23 AM
Author: Zombie-like autistic twinkling uncleanness sandwich

My essays, I can say now, without a doubt a probably some of the best I've ever written.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947014)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath

My personal statement was deeply tied to my experiences as a FGLI applicant, and I have no regrets really putting my story out there. It was a risk, but I think it paid off.

Oh what a risk!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947021)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:39 AM
Author: crimson clown death wish

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947043)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: Doobsian sienna locus rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947054)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:45 AM
Author: fragrant chapel depressive

it's terrifying that this victim mentality is so ingrained in zoomers that this was poasted unironically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947057)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947091)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 12:50 PM
Author: copper at-the-ready giraffe

it's really unbelievable, there's no awareness, no cynicism at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947239)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947287)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: fragrant chapel depressive

jfc what a Joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946925)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: ruddy multi-colored theatre

and a criminal!

"C&F: Not insignificant C&F issue from 2.5 years ago. Had to write addenda at most schools. Not a serious crime, but falls in line with financial issues (e.g, financial distress). I actually ended up writing my personal statement about this and how my experience with this c&f issue changed my approach to law and the kind of advocate I want to be for my own clients. This was a risk, because I really put it all out there, but I think it paid off immensely."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946927)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48946928)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 4:26 PM
Author: Scarlet crusty fortuitous meteor reading party



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Date: May 20th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48948453)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 12:51 PM
Author: onyx resort macaca

Even tho absolutely nobody liked my asian wife joke (which was great), im heartened by this thread picking up so many posts.

We long to debate schools, lists of schools, admission decisions, and such. We LONG for it. It is in are soul

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947251)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 12:59 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947295)



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Date: May 23rd, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: brindle passionate principal's office



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Date: May 20th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: Nighttime Wrinkle Theater Stage

You guys mock but i had a friend from undergrad who chose UCLA over Yale because he wanted to work in film production, they actually hired him as an actor because he had UCLA on his resume, he has been leading man in some big films and won a golden globe. But sure he'd rather be in house at Nabisco or whatever 🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48947275)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: 180 gunner dragon

film scouts snatch up the tallest, handsomest men from all the top law schools, not just UCLA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48948366)



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Date: May 23rd, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: brindle passionate principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48956969)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 5:34 PM
Author: Pungent coffee pot

harvard and it's not even close

you can make up full cost vs tuition free ucla simply by running a few turos on the side while at hls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48948517)



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Date: May 23rd, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48956432)



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Date: May 23rd, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: Galvanic stage international law enforcement agency

most distinguished alum of UCLA: Kirstin Gillibrand

most distinguished alum of HLS: Elie Mystal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48956931)



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Date: May 23rd, 2025 5:19 PM
Author: thriller karate

This is why you should include where you got admitted in your education section on your resume, not just where you went.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725888&forum_id=2],#48956962)