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Unbelievable how unproductive, time wasting and mindless most F500 employees are

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Pearl diverse hall hairy legs
  04/29/25
why doesn't capitalism weed them out?
180 point
  04/29/25
I really don't know. It's a great question. Maybe markets ...
Pearl diverse hall hairy legs
  04/29/25
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Irradiated orange rehab
  04/29/25
Actual capitalism would weed them out. The mutant freak neol...
Bright wonderful rigpig
  04/29/25
Actual capitalism has never been tried!
Azure crusty goyim crotch
  04/29/25
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mahogany love of her life
  04/29/25
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exhilarant electric furnace
  04/29/25
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Doobsian plaza dopamine
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Pierbattista Pizzaballa
  04/30/25
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medicated ebony house
  04/29/25
large financialized, publicly traded corps should be thought...
startled brunch
  04/29/25
This is an interesting theory.
Pearl diverse hall hairy legs
  04/29/25
cr the "Bullshit Jobs" book covers this aspect a l...
beta resort
  04/29/25
That’s actually a rubbish book. I’ve covered thi...
vigorous jade death wish
  04/29/25
why haven't any conservatives shredded these companies for w...
180 point
  04/29/25
Most of it is him talking about the Nolan Batman movies and ...
medicated ebony house
  04/29/25
He spends a lot of time praising Women and attacking the dum...
vigorous jade death wish
  04/29/25
I think I already talked about him being a jew in my poast i...
medicated ebony house
  04/29/25
cr that book sucks and that guy was a Short jewish shitlib ...
startled brunch
  04/29/25
the output of the lower retainers isn't valueless. as the co...
Supple citrine laser beams
  04/29/25
yeah. also, the lower someone is in the retainer pyramid, th...
chill weed guy
  04/30/25
Right the actual service most companies provide is very basi...
metaphysics is fallow
  04/30/25
i really like it here
salmon box office degenerate
  04/29/25
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Pearl diverse hall hairy legs
  04/29/25
not really. you just deal with lawyers
silver stage
  04/29/25
He’s perfectly describing Fake Jobs. Like 60% of F500 ...
vigorous jade death wish
  04/29/25
He knows this he just feels threatened.
Pearl diverse hall hairy legs
  04/29/25
With the amount of RIFs last 3 years, I think most truly unp...
silver stage
  04/29/25
This is an insanely retarded POV. Large public companies ar...
Pearl diverse hall hairy legs
  04/29/25
please do tell me about these jobs
silver stage
  04/29/25
I don't know what you would like me to say. I interact with...
Pearl diverse hall hairy legs
  04/29/25
So no examples?
silver stage
  04/29/25
Would you like me to start identifying individual employees ...
Pearl diverse hall hairy legs
  04/29/25
job titles would suffice (open hiring positions?).
silver stage
  04/29/25
Okay let me pull a couple org. charts and some memos with th...
Pearl diverse hall hairy legs
  04/29/25
tyia
silver stage
  04/29/25
agreed for most fortune 500's but not for the big banks.
light station
  04/29/25
Check whatever company you’re thinking about and the n...
vigorous jade death wish
  04/29/25
I have an F100, an F500, and a startup job. Of all of them, ...
sickened splenetic hospital
  04/29/25
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Pearl diverse hall hairy legs
  04/29/25
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blow off some steam
  04/30/25
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fragrant chestnut kitchen becky
  04/29/25
nonstop "alignment" meetings where everyone wants ...
Jet-lagged Native Son Of Senegal
  04/29/25
Only in liberal arts jobs
vigorous jade death wish
  04/29/25
my company has all these fucking retarded meetings about vol...
light station
  04/29/25
TCR
The Velvet Bulldozer
  04/30/25
Alignment is my current most hated buzzword
Pierbattista Pizzaballa
  04/30/25
heard it used here more in a month than in a lifetime of emp...
\'\'\"\"\'\'\'\"
  04/30/25
Are you an Engineer
cowgod
  04/30/25
no but work heavily with them. even they outsource the bulk ...
\'\'\"\"\'\'\'\"
  04/30/25
WFH’s greatest gift is that I can just skip these meet...
Burkina Fatso
  04/30/25
You’re gonna be terminated by an AI for misalignment
Pierbattista Pizzaballa
  04/30/25


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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:53 AM
Author: Pearl diverse hall hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890439)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:54 AM
Author: 180 point

why doesn't capitalism weed them out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890443)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: Pearl diverse hall hairy legs

I really don't know. It's a great question. Maybe markets aren't as hyper-competitive as we like to pretend they are. It's a big open secret that anyone who observes these companies becomes privy to the more closely you interact with them (but there's no incentive to change the status quo because the supermajority of people within the company benefit from it, like a gentlemen's agreement that everyone just half-asses things). The average management-layer employee has a calendar full of meetings they don't contribute to but nevertheless sit in on (so they appear "busy"), 4 weeks of paid vacation that they assuredly take to the last minute, a couple weeks of fake sick time they finagle in, and they work a real 10 hours max per week putting together charts and "ideating." Projects take forever to complete; everything is constantly delayed; there are significant inaccuracies and mistakes that get glossed over by higher layers of management and leadership; there's no sense of urgency in anything unless it is externally imposed on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890453)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:36 PM
Author: Irradiated orange rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891413)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 1:44 PM
Author: Bright wonderful rigpig

Actual capitalism would weed them out. The mutant freak neoliberal GC clown show we have rewards them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890701)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Azure crusty goyim crotch

Actual capitalism has never been tried!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890830)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: mahogany love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890856)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:13 PM
Author: exhilarant electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891355)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Doobsian plaza dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891815)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 12:27 PM
Author: Pierbattista Pizzaballa



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48893574)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:55 AM
Author: medicated ebony house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890449)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 12:08 PM
Author: startled brunch

large financialized, publicly traded corps should be thought of as fiefdoms made up of layers of retainers

everyone in every layer has retainers below them who serve them, all the way up to the very top. people are permitted to continue to exist within the organization to the extent that the usefulness that they provide as a retainer to others outweighs any friction or problems that they pose to others

retainers in medieval times didn't do anything most of the time, either. they just existed as parasites on the productive system around them until their lord called on them to do something, just like corporate employees with their boss(es)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890485)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 1:36 PM
Author: Pearl diverse hall hairy legs

This is an interesting theory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890685)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: beta resort

cr the "Bullshit Jobs" book covers this aspect a little. larger headcount = more important = more power. it also gives individual managers or teams the room to cut headcount later as a tool to look like they're "doing something" in a time of crisis. summary: it's all fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890740)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: vigorous jade death wish

That’s actually a rubbish book. I’ve covered this iirc. He doesn’t do a very good job of delving into the BS and it’s kind of hard to do so when you’re a shitlib tbh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890801)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: 180 point

why haven't any conservatives shredded these companies for wasting shareholder money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890806)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: medicated ebony house

Most of it is him talking about the Nolan Batman movies and also being a jew iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890808)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: vigorous jade death wish

He spends a lot of time praising Women and attacking the dumb things the military does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890839)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:27 PM
Author: medicated ebony house

I think I already talked about him being a jew in my poast imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891395)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: startled brunch

cr that book sucks and that guy was a Short jewish shitlib

i can't remember if he actually addressed what i described above but i stand by it as cr. anyone who has worked in these orgs can attest to this being how those orgs work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890870)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:06 PM
Author: Supple citrine laser beams

the output of the lower retainers isn't valueless. as the company grows the workforce specializes and becomes formalized. each activity of the company is spread over more and more people, so it becomes commoditized. the roles aren't useless, they are just increasingly simple.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891334)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:17 AM
Author: chill weed guy

yeah. also, the lower someone is in the retainer pyramid, the more work they're actually doing (typically)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48893093)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: metaphysics is fallow

Right the actual service most companies provide is very basic and can be performed in a totally rote way. Companies get complex as external relationships and organizational demands increase, hence most people push paper over email.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48893112)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: salmon box office degenerate

i really like it here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890817)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Pearl diverse hall hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890849)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: silver stage

not really. you just deal with lawyers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890835)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: vigorous jade death wish

He’s perfectly describing Fake Jobs. Like 60% of F500 adult male employees with desks/computers have Engineering Deliverables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890843)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Pearl diverse hall hairy legs

He knows this he just feels threatened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890847)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: silver stage

With the amount of RIFs last 3 years, I think most truly unproductive jobs are gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890852)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: Pearl diverse hall hairy legs

This is an insanely retarded POV. Large public companies are full of these positions still.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890857)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: silver stage

please do tell me about these jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890865)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Pearl diverse hall hairy legs

I don't know what you would like me to say. I interact with and see this in management layers (especially) at F500 companies every day. The standards and tolerance for shirking / slacking / bullshit / half-assery / not giving a shit are still phenomenally high even after any sort of RIFs that have occurred. As I said above I think part of it is just tacit coordination/collusion--it benefits most people most of the time to keep things like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890879)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 5:57 PM
Author: silver stage

So no examples?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891307)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 5:59 PM
Author: Pearl diverse hall hairy legs

Would you like me to start identifying individual employees at Raytheon?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891313)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: silver stage

job titles would suffice (open hiring positions?).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891318)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: Pearl diverse hall hairy legs

Okay let me pull a couple org. charts and some memos with their info just standby for a while hoss thank you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891320)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:04 PM
Author: silver stage

tyia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891329)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 8:46 PM
Author: light station

agreed for most fortune 500's but not for the big banks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891716)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: vigorous jade death wish

Check whatever company you’re thinking about and the number of employees in 2019 vs 2025. The only layoffs I can think of were in bloated af tech Firms and western game developers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890891)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: sickened splenetic hospital

I have an F100, an F500, and a startup job. Of all of them, F100 is the least efficient and pays the most.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48890848)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 5:50 PM
Author: Pearl diverse hall hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891284)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: blow off some steam



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48893104)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:00 PM
Author: fragrant chestnut kitchen becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891316)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Native Son Of Senegal

nonstop "alignment" meetings where everyone wants to get involved but do nothing. it's pretty amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891816)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 10:11 PM
Author: vigorous jade death wish

Only in liberal arts jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891947)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 10:17 PM
Author: light station

my company has all these fucking retarded meetings about volunteering/discussing the strategy with people who are irrelevant to the "strategy" and inclusion meetings where we all just bullshit about our "concerns" which usually amount to "but why do I have to come into the office 3 times a week muh kids dentist appointment??"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48891970)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 7:02 AM
Author: The Velvet Bulldozer

TCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48892699)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 7:08 AM
Author: Pierbattista Pizzaballa

Alignment is my current most hated buzzword

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48892700)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: \'\'\"\"\'\'\'\"

heard it used here more in a month than in a lifetime of employment elsewhere. we even joke that it takes 5 months to align to do 5 weeks of work. what's amazing is that even if you align with a ton of people, some random person will still be pissed off that he wasn't in the loop, even though he's completely irrelevant. then there are people who make whole careers doing 100 lines of RACI, thinking this shit was even remotely useful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48893790)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: cowgod ( )

Are you an Engineer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48893966)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: \'\'\"\"\'\'\'\"

no but work heavily with them. even they outsource the bulk to contractors & vendors, chiming in to "align" on shit. fucking LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48894017)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:57 AM
Author: Burkina Fatso

WFH’s greatest gift is that I can just skip these meetings entirely now and no one notices

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48893265)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 12:28 PM
Author: Pierbattista Pizzaballa

You’re gonna be terminated by an AI for misalignment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2],#48893579)