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Fatal flaw in Epstein: if he ever used any of the info he gather he’d be toxic

like if it Bill Richardson wouldn’t play ball and vide...
disturbing public bath
  02/14/22
How would anyone know it was even Epstein's footage, or that...
Vibrant House
  02/14/22
Presumably Richardson would say so
ultramarine elite pocket flask
  02/14/22
All Richardson would know is that Epstein hooked him up with...
Vibrant House
  02/14/22
because there would be a backstory and the location of the i...
disturbing public bath
  02/15/22
it wasnt his operation. he was just a cog in a giant worldwi...
lake electric milk
  02/14/22
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Soul-stirring patrolman goal in life
  02/14/22
not relevant. if the beneficiaries of his operation ever use...
disturbing public bath
  02/14/22
There are always enough ppl willing to do anything to get &q...
lake electric milk
  02/14/22
cr
Bright yapping death wish area
  02/14/22
jfc
disturbing public bath
  02/15/22
i'm no expert but i thought you keep 99% of it in reserve an...
contagious onyx wrinkle church building
  02/14/22
"kike casino machine" is the proper defined term
Aphrodisiac carnelian gas station ceo
  02/14/22
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Excitant Salmon Station
  02/14/22
"Epstein" wouldn't be doing the blackmailing.
Soul-stirring patrolman goal in life
  02/14/22
same argument applies to Mossad or whoever would be
disturbing public bath
  02/14/22
Oh yeah, the truth would all come to light after Bill Richar...
cheese-eating sweet tailpipe national
  02/14/22
"The flaw with nuclear weapons is that once you use the...
Cocky Mad Cow Disease Old Irish Cottage
  02/14/22
great analogy
lake electric milk
  02/14/22
Really?
Cocky Mad Cow Disease Old Irish Cottage
  02/14/22
Yep. There's theories actually that "nuclear weapons...
lake electric milk
  02/14/22
Your personal take?
Cocky Mad Cow Disease Old Irish Cottage
  02/14/22
As far whether nukes actually exist? I have no idea, but the...
lake electric milk
  02/14/22
This makes zero sense. It requires that countries spend bill...
Vibrant House
  02/14/22
"It requires the the people doing the blackmailing neve...
lake electric milk
  02/14/22
...
Arousing Corner Rigpig
  02/14/22
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lake electric milk
  02/14/22
Tell that to the USA and Japan
disturbing public bath
  02/15/22
the costs to the "bill richardson" character for t...
Doobsian White Pistol Senate
  02/14/22
they'd never have to use it. just the threat of doing so wou...
sick blue range
  02/14/22
exactly. its mutually assured destruction. it's the only way...
lake electric milk
  02/14/22
The threat to release the tape to family members would be us...
cordovan mind-boggling shrine
  02/14/22
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Mlk-unco...
cordovan mind-boggling shrine
  02/14/22
Wow didnt know about this, ty.
lake electric milk
  02/14/22
FBI was way worse in the 60s/70s than anything they have don...
cordovan mind-boggling shrine
  02/14/22
Disagree. They've just devised better ways to keep things un...
lake electric milk
  02/14/22
They just killed Malcolm X daughter, days after his killer w...
Vibrant House
  02/14/22
He spelled 'behavior' in the first sentence in a way that ma...
Cocky Mad Cow Disease Old Irish Cottage
  02/14/22
yes, he would never use it himself, what's your point?
Bright yapping death wish area
  02/14/22
I'd still like to know what "He belongs to intelligence...
Swollen khaki garrison community account
  02/14/22
Acute lacks of curiosity are the worst kind
ultramarine elite pocket flask
  02/14/22
this part is hardly a mystery
disturbing public bath
  02/15/22
The [unnamed federal] prosecutor said that it was clear that...
Swollen khaki garrison community account
  02/14/22
Can't you see Bob, that's the beauty of the whole thing! Now...
Swollen khaki garrison community account
  02/14/22
Francis DeGraumont. I know that name. He's a vendor. We us...
Swollen khaki garrison community account
  02/14/22
I didn't have anything to do with it! Then who did? I don'...
Swollen khaki garrison community account
  02/14/22
He's a vendor, he provides services that certain people feel...
Swollen khaki garrison community account
  02/14/22
Btw the CIA are allowed to recruit foreign visitors to the U...
Swollen khaki garrison community account
  02/14/22
I think the operation, as alleged, would be more subtle than...
talking theater stage
  02/14/22
agree with the first paragraph. but it was way too smooth...
Doobsian White Pistol Senate
  02/14/22
Sure, but I'm saying it wasn't Epstein and Maxwell showing u...
talking theater stage
  02/15/22
oh absolutely -- agreed. and maxwell was even posting on sy...
Doobsian White Pistol Senate
  02/15/22
not only did she poast, but she had one of the highest karma...
lake electric milk
  02/15/22
Isn't it obvious that Ghislaine was Epstein's handler? She i...
Talented Library Prole
  02/14/22
Bullshit she’s being sentenced in June
disturbing public bath
  02/15/22
Her conviction got thrown out.
cheese-eating sweet tailpipe national
  02/15/22
do you know what a cabal is
Nighttime Flushed Space
  02/15/22
how does it matter? what billionaire wants to be exposed as ...
Fragrant Principal's Office Marketing Idea
  02/15/22
...
"""'"'"""''
  07/18/25
this is the point Mike Benz pushes, but even if it holds wat...
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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:49 PM
Author: disturbing public bath

like if it Bill Richardson wouldn’t play ball and video of him fucking a 14-year-old at Epstein’s ranch emerged as a result then nobody would ever associate with Epstein again which would destroy his entire honeypot operation. discuss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965838)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:19 PM
Author: Vibrant House

How would anyone know it was even Epstein's footage, or that he had any role in leaking it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43966006)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:09 PM
Author: ultramarine elite pocket flask

Presumably Richardson would say so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968222)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 9:50 PM
Author: Vibrant House

All Richardson would know is that Epstein hooked him up with the girl. He wouldn't know whether Epstein was directly complicit in any other aspect of the operation. For all he knows they have Epstein's nuts in a vice too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968743)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: disturbing public bath

because there would be a backstory and the location of the incident would be widely reported on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43970975)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:50 PM
Author: lake electric milk

it wasnt his operation. he was just a cog in a giant worldwide machine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965844)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:51 PM
Author: Soul-stirring patrolman goal in life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965851)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:52 PM
Author: disturbing public bath

not relevant. if the beneficiaries of his operation ever used any of the info then the operation would be undermined

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965854)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:54 PM
Author: lake electric milk

There are always enough ppl willing to do anything to get "power". And i mean ANYTHING. Going to his island was one of the only ways to get access to a certain level of "elite" that you otherwise wouldnt be able to (unless you are born into it).

Most who went knew what was going on, they WANTED to become blackmailable, in order to get access to the club.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965872)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 6:00 PM
Author: Bright yapping death wish area

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43967605)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: disturbing public bath

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43970979)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:56 PM
Author: contagious onyx wrinkle church building

i'm no expert but i thought you keep 99% of it in reserve and on the rare occasion you need to play a card you have someone other than Epstein do a "concern troll" on the patsy.

"Bill Richardson, I know that you're getting a lot of heat about the upcoming vote. People are saying nasty things. Someone even told me that there's video of you and an underage girl fucking on some island. All I care about is your vote ..."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965891)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:53 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac carnelian gas station ceo

"kike casino machine" is the proper defined term

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965864)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 5:36 PM
Author: Excitant Salmon Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43967515)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:51 PM
Author: Soul-stirring patrolman goal in life

"Epstein" wouldn't be doing the blackmailing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965848)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:52 PM
Author: disturbing public bath

same argument applies to Mossad or whoever would be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965856)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:35 PM
Author: cheese-eating sweet tailpipe national

Oh yeah, the truth would all come to light after Bill Richardson's trial, just like with Ghislaine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43966094)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:54 PM
Author: Cocky Mad Cow Disease Old Irish Cottage

"The flaw with nuclear weapons is that once you use them you can no longer threaten to use them."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965870)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:55 PM
Author: lake electric milk

great analogy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965883)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:56 PM
Author: Cocky Mad Cow Disease Old Irish Cottage

Really?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965888)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:58 PM
Author: lake electric milk

Yep.

There's theories actually that "nuclear weapons" dont actually exist and whenever the media talks about nuclear weapons, its actually code for nuclear level blackmail, so need to read between the lines to understand what theyre actually talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965902)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:20 PM
Author: Cocky Mad Cow Disease Old Irish Cottage

Your personal take?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43966009)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:29 PM
Author: lake electric milk

As far whether nukes actually exist? I have no idea, but these days I dont rule anything out.

As far as comms (coded language) in MSM, those definitely exist and are used extensively by the deepstate, as is symbolism. They love using that.

“Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.”

― Confucius

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43966065)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 5:55 PM
Author: Vibrant House

This makes zero sense. It requires that countries spend billions on scientific research that they mothball. It requires the the people doing the blackmailing never change or die, such that it become pointless to blackmail them anymore. How do India and Pakistan blackmail each other anyway? How does that work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43967588)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 7:49 PM
Author: lake electric milk

"It requires the the people doing the blackmailing never change or die, such that it become pointless to blackmail them anymore."

the people doing the blackmailing are not blackmailable themselves. they are an invisible force behind the scenes, puppetmasters, etc.

the blackmailed class are all top public figures, politicians, some lead scientists, ceo's, many top celebrities, actors, musicians, pundits, top "news" personalities. essentially most "tastemakers", "thought leaders", anyone the public has trust in, who are famous.

denying that blackmail exists is a bit silly. blackmail + false flags have been used as control mechanism since roman empire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968154)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:20 PM
Author: Arousing Corner Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43966015)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 5:36 PM
Author: lake electric milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43967512)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:17 PM
Author: disturbing public bath

Tell that to the USA and Japan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43970984)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:54 PM
Author: Doobsian White Pistol Senate

the costs to the "bill richardson" character for taking this gamble would be immense, and one of the other johns would probably kill him if he started talking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965871)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:55 PM
Author: sick blue range

they'd never have to use it. just the threat of doing so would be enough. and what's the guy gonna say "yeah i fucked a 14 year old but this guy epstein set it all up!" it's an incredibly risky bluff to call.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965879)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:56 PM
Author: lake electric milk

exactly. its mutually assured destruction. it's the only way they could create 100% loyalty from all participants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965892)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:55 PM
Author: cordovan mind-boggling shrine

The threat to release the tape to family members would be used to blackmail politicians or suggest they kill themselves. Hoover taped MLK fucking hookers and sent him the tape with a deadline of 34 days (before the Nobel ceremony) to commit suicide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965880)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:58 PM
Author: cordovan mind-boggling shrine

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Mlk-uncovered-letter.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965900)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:04 PM
Author: lake electric milk

Wow didnt know about this, ty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965934)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:12 PM
Author: cordovan mind-boggling shrine

FBI was way worse in the 60s/70s than anything they have done in the past 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965975)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:16 PM
Author: lake electric milk

Disagree. They've just devised better ways to keep things under wraps better (blackmail of all congress, key people in govt) and keep anyone from investigating them or the CIA. Also compartmentalizing everything inside, so only people at the very top knew everything going on, basically like ISIS/Alqueda terorrist cells are structured.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43965994)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:21 PM
Author: Vibrant House

They just killed Malcolm X daughter, days after his killer was exonerated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43966017)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:22 PM
Author: Cocky Mad Cow Disease Old Irish Cottage

He spelled 'behavior' in the first sentence in a way that made me pronounce it with a French accent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43966026)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 5:41 PM
Author: Bright yapping death wish area

yes, he would never use it himself, what's your point?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43967535)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 7:32 PM
Author: Swollen khaki garrison community account

I'd still like to know what "He belongs to intelligence" meant, and why Acosta was told to go easy on him. Our media seem to be suffering from an acute lack of curiosity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968057)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:10 PM
Author: ultramarine elite pocket flask

Acute lacks of curiosity are the worst kind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968229)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:18 PM
Author: disturbing public bath

this part is hardly a mystery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43970987)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:19 PM
Author: Swollen khaki garrison community account

The [unnamed federal] prosecutor said that it was clear that someone in Washington [D.C.] was calling the shots on the case.

-Perversion of Justice: The Jeffrey Epstein Story, by Julie K. Brown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968277)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:50 PM
Author: Swollen khaki garrison community account

Can't you see Bob, that's the beauty of the whole thing! Now let's say they need someone in their pocket. Now it's a pain to have to call up and say alright, we need so many legislators, go out and start setting 'em up. I spend my time setting 'em up beforehand. You see, I keep 'em on ice. And that way when they're needed I just turn to the old stockpile, there they are. Now, some of these guys we may never even use. That's okay! Let 'em sweat. Just last week I got a certain foreign ambassador in a midtown hotel with teen twins, real Amazon types. And the best part is, in this guy's home country that particular crime is punishable by death! I gotta tell ya Bob, I look forward to work when it's so much fun.

nbc.com/the-equalizer/video/the-lock-box/3767771



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968422)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:51 PM
Author: Swollen khaki garrison community account

Francis DeGraumont.

I know that name.

He's a vendor. We use him to provide specific services when required.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968430)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:51 PM
Author: Swollen khaki garrison community account

I didn't have anything to do with it!

Then who did?

I don't know, I swear. Look, DeGraumont was holding videotapes and pictures, a lot of very graphic material, and a lot of people, any of them has the juice to keep him out.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968435)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:52 PM
Author: Swollen khaki garrison community account

He's a vendor, he provides services that certain people feel important. So as long as he has value he will be protected, correct?

Yeah, he's a lucky guy. They'll set him up somewhere else, better than here. They have to. It's like you said, the guy is too good at what he does.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968438)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:55 PM
Author: Swollen khaki garrison community account

Btw the CIA are allowed to recruit foreign visitors to the U.S. (whether willingly or not so willingly). They operate out of front offices in commercial office buildings across the U.S. They apparently don't use the federal buildings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968453)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:58 PM
Author: talking theater stage

I think the operation, as alleged, would be more subtle than that. If you're a dorky NYC private equity exec, and this fun, charming guy you bump into a random fundraiser invites you on his private jet to his estate to party with hot women, you're going to say yes. And after you attend said party and have sex with some of these women, you're going to be amenable to some usually minor request your new best friend until it snowballs to the point where you're full on conspirators.

I doubt he at any point brought up his actual blackmail, if it exists as alleged, to get what he wanted from his subjects. I think it was mostly just him being a glamorous pimp whose 'payment' are in kind favors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968463)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 9:17 PM
Author: Doobsian White Pistol Senate

agree with the first paragraph.

but it was way too smooth of an operation -- epstein knew what he was doing. and given maxwell's ties, of course it was used for government blackmail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968557)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 1:17 PM
Author: talking theater stage

Sure, but I'm saying it wasn't Epstein and Maxwell showing up at some PE CEO's house with DVDs of him with a teenager. It was probably much more subtle and even cordial seeming than that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43971341)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 3:41 PM
Author: Doobsian White Pistol Senate

oh absolutely -- agreed. and maxwell was even posting on sympathetic reddit forums (and i wonder if she pulled anyone off of there who seemed important too lol). my point is just that, assuredly epstein (or his crew) did blackmail one or more people, explicitly. must have

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43972385)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 3:44 PM
Author: lake electric milk

not only did she poast, but she had one of the highest karma accounts on reddit and was a powermod.

https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarecity/comments/hnh2ve/umaxwellhill_the_reddit_account_with_the_8th_most/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43972395)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 9:51 PM
Author: Talented Library Prole

Isn't it obvious that Ghislaine was Epstein's handler? She is literally scott free due to a convenient mistrial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43968750)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:21 PM
Author: disturbing public bath

Bullshit she’s being sentenced in June

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43970997)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 1:04 PM
Author: cheese-eating sweet tailpipe national

Her conviction got thrown out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43971242)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: Nighttime Flushed Space

do you know what a cabal is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43970978)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:19 PM
Author: Fragrant Principal's Office Marketing Idea

how does it matter? what billionaire wants to be exposed as a child rapist so he can ruin epstein's future blackmail business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#43970988)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: """'"'"""''



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#49112643)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


this is the point Mike Benz pushes, but even if it holds water it doesn't mean that Mossad can't gently play extortion years later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2],#49112665)