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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
Talented haunting stock car telephone
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
stirring dysfunction
  03/19/18
it's despicable
Talented haunting stock car telephone
  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
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  03/22/18
Good job man. We’d be friends.
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  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
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  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
Talented haunting stock car telephone
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
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  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
Yellow pervert
  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
effete scarlet office
  03/19/18
Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
Umber Crusty French Chef
  03/19/18
Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use ...
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  03/19/18
You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS c...
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effete scarlet office
  03/19/18
Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
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  03/19/18
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a d...
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stirring dysfunction
  03/19/18
This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
Talented haunting stock car telephone
  03/19/18
Very TTT. But who's going to check?
stirring dysfunction
  05/14/18
People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, f...
Yellow pervert
  03/19/18
"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me...
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  03/19/18
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  03/19/18
That took several hours per my notebook of billables.
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Talented haunting stock car telephone

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: stirring dysfunction

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Talented haunting stock car telephone

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Milky Bonkers Meetinghouse

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: effete scarlet office

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: odious tattoo



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: hairraiser claret university generalized bond



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: effete scarlet office



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Date: August 4th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: i gave my cousin head



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: adulterous theatre

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: effete scarlet office



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Talented haunting stock car telephone

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: effete scarlet office

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Talented haunting stock car telephone

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: mildly autistic motley site

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: iridescent aphrodisiac striped hyena garrison



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Dun Multi-billionaire Area



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: spectacular coffee pot faggot firefighter



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: duck-like aggressive center jap

Is this flame

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Dashing corn cake toaster

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: 180 boiling water

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Talented haunting stock car telephone

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Gaped bbw

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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Talented haunting stock car telephone



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: mildly autistic motley site



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: dark useless state selfie

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Talented haunting stock car telephone

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: electric box office yarmulke

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Talented haunting stock car telephone

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: electric box office yarmulke

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Yellow pervert

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: effete scarlet office

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Umber Crusty French Chef

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Talented haunting stock car telephone

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: duck-like aggressive center jap

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: effete scarlet office



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: stirring dysfunction

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Passionate Buck-toothed Boistinker School Cafeteria

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: stirring dysfunction

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Talented haunting stock car telephone

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: stirring dysfunction

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: Yellow pervert

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: mildly autistic motley site

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: Yellow pervert

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: mildly autistic motley site

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Yellow pervert



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: Umber Crusty French Chef

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Passionate Buck-toothed Boistinker School Cafeteria

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Yellow pervert



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Yellow pervert

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: bearded sanctuary

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: bright range

killself

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Frozen Rough-skinned Halford

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Multi-colored Giraffe Legal Warrant

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: Bossy goyim

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: sepia big casino partner

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: electric box office yarmulke

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Pearly Dopamine

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36050530)