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Lavender lascivious electric furnace trump supporter
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Last gen to know computer afaict
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it's pretty nuts that the generation glued to screens since ...
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Lavender lascivious electric furnace trump supporter
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tbf there are like 5-10x as many zoomers as millennials majo...
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I almost took offense to this remark Then just remembered i...
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early millennial here with synology NAS running plex, can co...
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You’re basically an Engineerbif you got DirectX to wor...
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Lavender lascivious electric furnace trump supporter
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what's the most seamless way to torrent these days w/o expos...
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i mostly use thepiratebay with a VPN on, transmission app fo...
electric aquamarine genital piercing
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tyft - i'm going to test this out. using transmission over v...
Indigo Big Mexican Trust Fund
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there are different ways you can set it up but i run plex di...
electric aquamarine genital piercing
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i'm all over this, going to research nas options. any you'd ...
Indigo Big Mexican Trust Fund
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you dont need ssd to stream, even 90+ mbps bitrate files. yo...
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ty - learned so much from this thread. looking at picking up...
Indigo Big Mexican Trust Fund
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Shield works great but you can also get an awesome micropc w...
swollen hominid menage
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ya but i have a remote shaped like a triangle, lmao.
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so i just bought an empty DS1621+ (on a black friday sale) a...
electric aquamarine genital piercing
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i was doing NAS for awhile and then i went all in and built ...
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sounds cool. i considered building a server but just didn't ...
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download from piratebay and don't run executable files lo...
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wtf. use private torrent sites and skip vpn. i have never ru...
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did IRC ever catch on with millennials?
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twitter is based on IRC code.
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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: Lavender lascivious electric furnace trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271303)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: swollen hominid menage

Last gen to know computer afaict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271306)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:36 AM
Author: Lavender lascivious electric furnace trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271315)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:37 AM
Author: orchid digit ratio

it's pretty nuts that the generation glued to screens since birth don't know fuck all about computers. i've heard that zoomer cs people are fucking retards about it too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271319)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:38 AM
Author: swollen hominid menage



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:48 AM
Author: Lavender lascivious electric furnace trump supporter



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:37 PM
Author: Carnelian cruise ship

tbf there are like 5-10x as many zoomers as millennials majoring in CS. there used to be some self selection for a base level of spergitude, then everyone realized you can fart out a react app and land a job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47272948)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:42 AM
Author: aromatic abode boltzmann

I almost took offense to this remark

Then just remembered in my dorm there was

A guy downloading torrents sans encryption

(Too poor for VPNs? Could be, but still)

So zoomers know the gist, but it's as if

The art is half-remembered, so to Bards

Pre-dating Homer, all confused at letters

And only knowing how the "viewer" gasped

As if he were the victim of a blow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271335)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:53 AM
Author: swollen hominid menage

enjoying the new shtick brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271376)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:26 PM
Author: nighttime jet-lagged church

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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:38 PM
Author: orchid digit ratio



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:58 PM
Author: swollen hominid menage

180 moniker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271688)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 10:12 PM
Author: alcoholic swashbuckling headpube preventive strike



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:38 AM
Author: cerebral bearded ape



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:48 AM
Author: electric aquamarine genital piercing

early millennial here with synology NAS running plex, can confirm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271355)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:57 AM
Author: Turquoise aphrodisiac senate

You’re basically an Engineerbif you got DirectX to work in the 90s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271395)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:57 AM
Author: Lavender lascivious electric furnace trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271397)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:22 PM
Author: Indigo Big Mexican Trust Fund

what's the most seamless way to torrent these days w/o exposure to a bunch of viruses, etc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271522)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:28 PM
Author: electric aquamarine genital piercing

i mostly use thepiratebay with a VPN on, transmission app for actual torrenting. download straight to plex server directory on synology NAS. use infuse app for playback through AppleTV/iPad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271542)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 3:45 PM
Author: Indigo Big Mexican Trust Fund

tyft - i'm going to test this out. using transmission over vpn to download top gun maverick. if it's really this simple, i'll set up the plex/nas.

can you explain the latter, a bit more? am i running a plex server on my pc and pointing to a directory on the nas for storage, or can a synology nas run the plex server itself?

*edit* lol - fhd movie downloaded in like 2 min



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47272492)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 3:55 PM
Author: electric aquamarine genital piercing

there are different ways you can set it up but i run plex directly on the synology NAS so that it's "always on" and not subject to the state of my computers. I don't run my torrenting app on synology cuz getting a VPN set up on a NAS seemed like a hassle, so it seemed more straightforward to just make sure the VPN was on on my main computer and torrent as needed from that. btw people on here have recommended alternate setups (such as "Seedboxes") but I haven't had the time to look into them and am happy with my current solution.

i use Infuse instead of the plex app for playback cuz it supports speeding up videos (yes yes I'm weird/autistic etc, thanks). infuse also has the advantage of doing "direct playback" so that it can just play whatever format, whereas if you use the plex app for playback there often needs to be a conversion that happens first.

overall i'm very happy with it and find that it meets all my COONSOOMING needs. i can do remote access when i'm traveling (through e.g. ipad) and also download videos offline. and i don't need to worry about streaming fees or shows i like getting yanked to another platform ever....it's all local

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47272533)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 3:58 PM
Author: Indigo Big Mexican Trust Fund

i'm all over this, going to research nas options. any you'd recommend that are primarily ssd versus spinning disk that also have plex support w/ hardware based accel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47272546)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:04 PM
Author: Irradiated brunch main people

you dont need ssd to stream, even 90+ mbps bitrate files. you will get more storage per $ from spinning disks.

i use nvidia shield tv pro as clients in my home. direct play. atmos, dv, hdr10+, it will play anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47272571)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:15 PM
Author: electric aquamarine genital piercing



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:36 PM
Author: Indigo Big Mexican Trust Fund

ty - learned so much from this thread. looking at picking up a qnap ts-464 + some disks to get this going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47272938)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:45 PM
Author: swollen hominid menage

Shield works great but you can also get an awesome micropc with better statz for same price, like one of those Beelink units.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47272996)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 8:44 PM
Author: Irradiated brunch main people

ya but i have a remote shaped like a triangle, lmao.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47273600)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:15 PM
Author: electric aquamarine genital piercing

so i just bought an empty DS1621+ (on a black friday sale) and put my own drives in it. i got 2 16TB drives set up in SHR (so 16TB effective storage). because this is a media server, i did not even consider SSDs due to cost considerations. i've had it over a year and am only now down to about 25% of storage capacity (i also do backups of my main Mac).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47272609)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 8:51 PM
Author: Irradiated brunch main people

i was doing NAS for awhile and then i went all in and built a storage server that is on 24/7. server also handles home automation and home network. it has 8x8tb for storage, effective 59tb online, run by a supermicro jbod controller card (broadcom chip). it took awhile but i found software called stablebit drivepool which pools disks and presents as one drive, software striped, since it is slow moving data (media, backups, etc.) i am okay with this instead of raid or mirror. it also allows different make/model/capacity of drive and hot swap. since it is all one machine, i use crash42 small business crashplan which is unlimited cloud backup for $10 a month for one machine. i laugh that i backup over 30tb for $10 a month. i have been running this setup for almost 8 years now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47273631)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 10:08 PM
Author: electric aquamarine genital piercing

sounds cool. i considered building a server but just didn't want to deal with it at the end of the day. decided i really wanted a pre-configured solution. i also don't have the NAS backed up because the cloud solutions for NASes all seemed too spendy to be worth it for my use case and i can't be bothered with rotating USB drive shit for what's ultimately a server full of torrents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47273890)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:34 PM
Author: Unhinged razzle-dazzle stead deer antler

download from piratebay and don't run executable files

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271569)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:45 PM
Author: azure tripping pit weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271613)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:00 PM
Author: Wonderful Obsidian Lettuce Shrine



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:02 PM
Author: Lavender lascivious electric furnace trump supporter



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:10 PM
Author: costumed arousing area

Wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47272591)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:12 PM
Author: Irradiated brunch main people

wtf. use private torrent sites and skip vpn. i have never run vpn for torrenting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47272602)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:14 PM
Author: costumed arousing area



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:37 PM
Author: azure tripping pit weed whacker

Yeah. It’s pretty funny how Big Corpo defeated piracy by…providing increasingly easier and easier interfaces to Consume, to the point where the population is now too dumb to consume via any method other than the official retail interfaces for products

The System ended up…unironically working, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271579)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:45 PM
Author: electric aquamarine genital piercing

hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271609)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: Lavender lascivious electric furnace trump supporter



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:27 PM
Author: orchid digit ratio



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Date: October 6th, 2025 1:50 PM
Author: screenman



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:47 PM
Author: canary frum reading party sanctuary

imo it should be gen x into '83 or '84. but younger people have to know how to do this don't they?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271618)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: Disrespectful casino telephone

Younger people do not know what a "folder" is:

"Garland thought it would be an easy fix. She asked each student where they’d saved their project. Could they be on the desktop?

Perhaps in the shared drive? But over and over, she was met with confusion. “What are you talking about?” multiple students inquired.

Not only did they not know where their files were saved — they didn’t understand the question."

https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271636)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: azure tripping pit weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271637)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: Lavender lascivious electric furnace trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271653)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:55 PM
Author: electric aquamarine genital piercing

had a double-reverse big willie when i saw "File not found" and thought it was a xo fake news piece, until i realized that was the title of the article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271666)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:56 PM
Author: Disrespectful casino telephone



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:57 PM
Author: orchid digit ratio



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:59 PM
Author: swollen hominid menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271692)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 1:37 PM
Author: chartreuse locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47271919)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 2:07 PM
Author: Lavender lascivious electric furnace trump supporter



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:01 PM
Author: Wonderful Obsidian Lettuce Shrine



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:19 PM
Author: Drunken milky marketing idea parlour



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:58 PM
Author: Unhinged razzle-dazzle stead deer antler



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Date: January 10th, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: canary frum reading party sanctuary

same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47273199)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:22 PM
Author: Marvelous embarrassed to the bone address

did IRC ever catch on with millennials?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47272639)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:24 PM
Author: nighttime jet-lagged church

twitter is based on IRC code.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47272651)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 6:03 PM
Author: Carnelian cruise ship

🧐

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47273076)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 6:59 PM
Author: Sick State Private Investor

Twitch chat is literally an IRC server that you can join with irssi etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47273277)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:30 PM
Author: Sick State Private Investor

I'm late millennial or early zoomer and still keep in touch with people I met on IRC around 2010

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47272675)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:32 PM
Author: swollen hominid menage

180

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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:57 PM
Author: Lavender lascivious electric furnace trump supporter

1800

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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:17 PM
Author: chartreuse locus

180

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Date: October 6th, 2025 1:54 PM
Author: ...,....,,........

(Guy who was a part of a Pedo Ring)

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Date: January 10th, 2024 8:45 PM
Author: Jet cracking jap

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2068879&forum_id=2#47269675

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47273606)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:49 PM
Author: stimulating native

pirating is fun, i have a 50 tb plex server on a 10 gig connection & have it automated to where it downloads basically every movie and show (except marvel shit) and share it with tons of people. Btw nobody watches movies on it i think everyone's attention spans have been destroyed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47273026)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:57 PM
Author: Lavender lascivious electric furnace trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47273058)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 10:06 PM
Author: Wonderful Obsidian Lettuce Shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47273882)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 8:45 PM
Author: Jet cracking jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2],#47273605)