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America is barely even a first world country

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Sienna Beady-eyed Cuckold Trust Fund
  09/25/13
I blame so-called diversity. America is doing GREAT if you e...
lime menage
  09/25/13
and west virginia
Sienna Beady-eyed Cuckold Trust Fund
  09/25/13
it's still not spectacular even if you do that, but the impo...
fighting home goyim
  09/25/13
its more likely wed be a chinese style state: free market au...
Dashing Step-uncle's House
  09/25/13
i have devised a final solution to this problem.
pearly swashbuckling spot scourge upon the earth
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this. racism actually provides a sort of distraction for ...
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what is the average weight of birdshit america? divorc...
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Didn't read article. Why's having great prisons necessary fo...
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the reason this won't work is a lot people would just commi...
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  09/25/13
societies with high levels of altruism, community norms, per...
fighting home goyim
  09/25/13
3 good hots. a nice bed. internet. tv. gym. health care. den...
pearly swashbuckling spot scourge upon the earth
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I forgot to mention that these countries also have flatter i...
fighting home goyim
  09/25/13
who doesn't? we are up there with feudal europe.
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You could easily make a list of a million reasons why Americ...
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TIRED OF WINNING
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TIRED OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS
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superior anglo culture
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maybe sit this one TF out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...
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damn bro tons of schoolkids in korea getting shot up daily
Cerebral Tan Roast Beef
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white men at american colleges dont get shot though for sure
Cerebral Tan Roast Beef
  09/11/25
white females dont get shot daily either
Cerebral Tan Roast Beef
  09/11/25
like the one in minnesota
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like portland
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Its what I'd call a "fourth world" country. It has...
medicated kitty cat headpube
  05/26/22
most americans don't even have $1,000 saved up for an emerge...
Orchid immigrant
  05/26/22
jfc
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  05/26/22
Yet somehow the proles I work with all have the latest "...
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  05/26/22
too bad no faggy "apps" cause sterilization
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  05/26/22
It's almost like the rise of the nuclear family destroys cul...
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it's barely a 3rd world country
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is the implication that america is third world because we do...
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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:06 AM
Author: Sienna Beady-eyed Cuckold Trust Fund

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/09/why-scandinavian-prisons-are-superior/279949/?google_editors_picks=true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#24109834)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:07 AM
Author: lime menage

I blame so-called diversity. America is doing GREAT if you exclude the browns and blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#24109838)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:09 AM
Author: Sienna Beady-eyed Cuckold Trust Fund

and west virginia

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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:11 AM
Author: fighting home goyim

it's still not spectacular even if you do that, but the important thing to remember is that an america without minorities would be a socialist paradise much like sweden because we'd have higher levels of social trust which would help every single institution function better, political shitparties wouldn't be able to exploit racial divisions to pwn us with their corporatist agendas, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#24109847)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:20 AM
Author: Dashing Step-uncle's House

its more likely wed be a chinese style state: free market authoritarianism. the capitalist narrative is too strong in are country types to allow for socialism, but they give zero fucks about corporatism or really even corruption

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#24109874)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:23 AM
Author: pearly swashbuckling spot scourge upon the earth

i have devised a final solution to this problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#24109879)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 6:21 AM
Author: hyperactive disturbing school liquid oxygen

this.

racism actually provides a sort of distraction for Americans. without racism, it'd just be outright ruthless competition with everyone like China.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#24109996)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:08 PM
Author: glittery national pozpig

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:31 AM
Author: medicated kitty cat headpube

what is the average weight of birdshit america?

divorce rate?

meth addiction?

education levels?

ljl birdshit amerikkka is not doing great u dumb moron

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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:22 AM
Author: medicated kitty cat headpube

Yes US birdshits are so thin and gorgeous with great family values and working hard studying STEM and stuff not snorting meth all day and trying to rape 12yo AZN girls.... Good stuff!

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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:07 PM
Author: glittery national pozpig

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:14 AM
Author: Domesticated Idiot

Lol

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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:15 AM
Author: Peach theater stage

Didn't read article. Why's having great prisons necessary for being a first world country? IMO, it would be better to have NO prisons at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#24109863)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:17 AM
Author: pearly swashbuckling spot scourge upon the earth

the reason this won't work is a lot people would just commit crimes to get put in a sweet living situation that is way better than you can achieve on the outside. the dude who shot up the camp surely live better than debt strapped millenials.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#24109870)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:35 AM
Author: fighting home goyim

societies with high levels of altruism, community norms, personal investment in the public good, etc, can get away with it

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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:42 AM
Author: pearly swashbuckling spot scourge upon the earth

3 good hots. a nice bed. internet. tv. gym. health care. dentist. shrinks if you need it. better than i have lived since leaving ug.

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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:57 AM
Author: fighting home goyim

I forgot to mention that these countries also have flatter income distributions than the US

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#24109923)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 5:18 AM
Author: pearly swashbuckling spot scourge upon the earth

who doesn't? we are up there with feudal europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#24109954)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 6:15 AM
Author: Irradiated ape tattoo

You could easily make a list of a million reasons why America sucks, but this isn't one of them

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Date: June 3rd, 2020 1:04 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef

TIRED OF WINNING

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Date: May 26th, 2022 2:58 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef

TIRED OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS

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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:29 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef

superior anglo culture

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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:13 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:15 AM
Author: Bateful center karate

maybe sit this one TF out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho

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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:18 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef

damn bro tons of schoolkids in korea getting shot up daily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#49177211)



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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:03 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef

white men at american colleges dont get shot though for sure

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Date: September 11th, 2025 6:47 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef

white females dont get shot daily either

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Date: January 7th, 2026 7:09 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef

like the one in minnesota

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Date: January 7th, 2026 7:39 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef

It's absolutely fine.

Date: January 29th, 2017 9:49 PM

Author: lawman8

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508473&forum_id=2#32494554

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#49570636)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef

like portland

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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:24 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: January 8th, 2026 1:08 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: January 8th, 2026 6:34 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:18 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:55 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:49 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: January 7th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: Bateful center karate

YEAH superior gook culture where teachers stab innocent 8 year olds is much better! DURR DURR

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj3zer88yrzo

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Date: September 14th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: August 14th, 2025 9:57 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: August 17th, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: August 21st, 2025 6:46 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: August 26th, 2025 12:56 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: September 15th, 2025 8:25 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: September 16th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: September 24th, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: October 7th, 2025 10:32 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: October 15th, 2025 1:43 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: July 15th, 2024 12:20 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef

PRESIDENTIAL SHOOTINGS

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Date: July 16th, 2024 6:43 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:46 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:07 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: September 28th, 2025 5:27 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef

MUH MICHIGAN MORMONS

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Date: October 2nd, 2025 1:00 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: October 15th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:09 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: March 6th, 2023 7:25 PM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: March 25th, 2024 11:19 PM
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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:21 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: March 27th, 2024 4:27 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef



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Date: March 27th, 2024 8:31 PM
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Date: April 2nd, 2024 9:36 PM
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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:31 AM
Author: medicated kitty cat headpube

Its what I'd call a "fourth world" country. It has TONS of things that dont exist in real first world countries like gun violence or mass obesity but these things also don't exist in most "third world" countries. The US is really unique in how furking shit it is. Truly amazing what a shithole country has been created, Mexico looks like it has a brighter future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#44575766)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:34 AM
Author: Orchid immigrant

most americans don't even have $1,000 saved up for an emergency. even syrian refugees could come up with a few grand to escape when the war started.

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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:35 AM
Author: Cerebral Tan Roast Beef

jfc

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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:39 AM
Author: lime menage

Yet somehow the proles I work with all have the latest "phone" with every accessory hmmm

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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:45 AM
Author: Orchid immigrant

too bad no faggy "apps" cause sterilization

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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:11 PM
Author: Underhanded Mad Cow Disease

It's almost like the rise of the nuclear family destroys cultures

You know is doing fine? Proles who live near extended family. Got a kid? Fifty different cousins can come by to take care of the kid when you're sick or have to travel for work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2],#44723225)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:10 PM
Author: appetizing plaza

it's barely a 3rd world country

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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:20 PM
Author: sticky fanboi coldplay fan

Lololol. Oh jeez what is the difference? What policy do the Scandinavians have that we just need to adopt that will make everything here work like everything there?

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Date: March 25th, 2024 11:20 PM
Author: slap-happy associate



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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:23 AM
Author: medicated kitty cat headpube

The US was never first world anyway these terms are stupid now so much of what u birdbrains consider third world does many things better than US... Like wtf are there barely any hobos or mentally deranged or fats in Laos

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Date: August 14th, 2025 9:59 PM
Author: Federal site

is the implication that america is third world because we dont have enough Anders Breiviks and we don't reward them with things like Console Gaming for their Acts of Heroism

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