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A one-way portal to 1993 opens. Do you take it?

The catch: You'll start out your current age, homeless, and ...
Domesticated impressive people who are hurt
  12/03/14
Fuck no.
startled bipolar wagecucks windowlicker
  12/03/14
(not a true 90s connoisseur)
Domesticated impressive people who are hurt
  12/03/14
...
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  06/17/25
...
Yapping bbw
  06/18/25
Your current life would have to be pretty darn shitty to fin...
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  12/03/14
It's a chance to relive the 90s. Admittedly, the hypo may...
Domesticated impressive people who are hurt
  12/03/14
I would only go back in time if I could change shit based on...
Maroon Vivacious Tanning Salon
  12/03/14
Hypo is too easy if it's just going back to your old self to...
Domesticated impressive people who are hurt
  12/03/14
The 90s were admittedly awesome, but that doesn't mean they ...
sable locale wrinkle
  12/03/14
Yeah and part of what made them awesome was we were young an...
Racy bonkers coffee pot
  12/03/14
...
Yapping bbw
  06/19/25
Without knowledge if future events I would have no way of ap...
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  12/03/14
...
Yapping bbw
  06/19/25
Fuck no. What kind of loser would take either of those?
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  12/03/14
I thought we had true 90s lovers here. The second one isn't ...
Domesticated impressive people who are hurt
  12/03/14
Only people who have a shit job and shit family/friends now ...
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  12/03/14
In a heart beat
Sickened incel
  12/03/14
...
Yapping bbw
  06/19/25
*gets raped immediately* *catches AIDS* *dies horrifically...
Wonderful geriatric rigpig trailer park
  12/03/14
Yes Get in on the tech bubble, and you'll be set for life...
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  12/03/14
this / simple knowledge of meta technological trends and mar...
Sickened incel
  12/03/14
Why they fuck would you want to go again through school, tes...
irradiated pervert
  12/03/14
Spring Break Cancun with Jerry Springer
cracking elite indian lodge macaca
  12/03/14
The OP's hypo says you are your current age and know nothing...
sable locale wrinkle
  12/03/14
The hypo would be better if you had general knowledge of fut...
Racy bonkers coffee pot
  12/03/14
This may be one of the worst hypos in the history of this bo...
Buff Internal Respiration
  12/03/14
what was one of the best
Racy bonkers coffee pot
  12/03/14
How many 5 yr olds could you kill with no break.
crimson brunch affirmative action
  12/03/14
That was an epic thread
thriller hissy fit sandwich
  12/03/14
This hypo suckkkks! FART
Salmon useless ratface home
  12/03/14
If I could get my Burger King job back.
Aromatic lake cuck market
  12/03/14
*waves goodbye over shoulder without looking back* EDIT: ...
Vengeful excitant circlehead
  12/03/14
lolwut, homeless with no friends and family? please work on...
Beady-eyed anal senate
  12/03/14
There has to be a price for living in the 90s again. See ver...
Domesticated impressive people who are hurt
  12/03/14
Your version 2 is like Scott Norwood getting a second chance...
Buff Internal Respiration
  12/03/14
I know the first one is nuts, but living in the 90s again mi...
Domesticated impressive people who are hurt
  12/03/14
what's so great about the 90s? the only thing great about t...
Beady-eyed anal senate
  12/03/14
America hadn't become a festering TTT in steep decline yet.
Domesticated impressive people who are hurt
  12/03/14
...
Yapping bbw
  06/19/25
no iPhone or iPad and slow as shit internet? NO WAY MAN.
jet drunken church building really tough guy
  12/03/14
Okay, I lol'd
Yapping bbw
  06/19/25
"no gay marriage | no way"
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  12/03/14
...
Yapping bbw
  06/19/25
...
Titillating Cuckoldry Hospital
  06/19/25
...
Yapping bbw
  06/19/25
heh heh but seriously whats the real catch
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  12/03/14
...
Yapping bbw
  06/19/25
I remember 1993 like it was yesterday. It was all so innocen...
heady flesh fanboi
  12/03/14
...
Yapping bbw
  06/19/25
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Only_Yesterday_(1991_film)
Yapping bbw
  06/19/25
I would kill Kill KILL to go back to my 13 yo self in 1993.
hideous idiot
  12/03/14
"current age"
Marvelous national faggot firefighter
  12/03/14
:( No.
hideous idiot
  12/03/14
...
Yapping bbw
  06/19/25
probably. it doesn't really look like there is some imminen...
supple native
  12/03/14
i'd go back to about 1984
hideous idiot
  12/03/14
tcr somewhere between 1973- 1985 would be ecstasy for me. i...
supple native
  12/03/14
what year were you born? the mid 80s- early 90s were the ...
hideous idiot
  12/03/14
...
Yapping bbw
  06/17/25
*balding, homeless lawyer from the future stumbles into 1993...
indecent center goal in life
  06/18/25
“He really liked it here, however briefly.”
Yapping bbw
  06/19/25
...
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...
Yapping bbw
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US cities were so much more dangerous in the 90s than they a...
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  06/19/25
so I just go back in time as some middle aged doofus alone i...
rambunctious shrine
  06/19/25
this is a crap hypo. those of us who've maed it but are sick...
Boyish cheese-eating boiling water point
  06/19/25
100%
Cerebral theater stage blood rage
  06/19/25
...
Yapping bbw
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so i'm a 40yo man in a time where girls weren't as slutty, y...
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"and STDs were rampant" u people are so fuckin ...
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  06/19/25


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Date: December 3rd, 2014 1:43 PM
Author: Domesticated impressive people who are hurt

The catch: You'll start out your current age, homeless, and without any knowledge of events or technology after 1993 in a city of your choice. Nobody will know you, and you'll never be in contact with any of your current family and friends again.

Is it worth it?

Edit: hypo version 2: You can take your immediate family with you, and you will be set up with a $20k/year retail job and generic identity (no other family or friends, but you're not a stranger to people at work) to go along with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26848913)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 1:44 PM
Author: startled bipolar wagecucks windowlicker

Fuck no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26848918)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 1:46 PM
Author: Domesticated impressive people who are hurt

(not a true 90s connoisseur)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26848929)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 11:07 PM
Author: Fuchsia corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49026900)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 1:39 AM
Author: Yapping bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49027163)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 1:46 PM
Author: Maroon Vivacious Tanning Salon

Your current life would have to be pretty darn shitty to find this option at all appealing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26848933)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 1:53 PM
Author: Domesticated impressive people who are hurt

It's a chance to relive the 90s.

Admittedly, the hypo may need some modification.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26848973)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 1:55 PM
Author: Maroon Vivacious Tanning Salon

I would only go back in time if I could change shit based on current knowledge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26848982)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:03 PM
Author: Domesticated impressive people who are hurt

Hypo is too easy if it's just going back to your old self to redo your life or if it involves becoming a multi-billionaire due to knowledge. Need some way to relieve the 90s without those issues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849025)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:03 PM
Author: sable locale wrinkle

The 90s were admittedly awesome, but that doesn't mean they were so for all people under all circumstances. Yeah it was a boom and a great time for pop culture, but you're hypo has someone dropping into 1993 as a ghost with no history or connections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849027)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:16 PM
Author: Racy bonkers coffee pot

Yeah and part of what made them awesome was we were young and didn't have to strive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849107)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: Yapping bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49032553)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 5:11 PM
Author: alcoholic kitchen police squad

Without knowledge if future events I would have no way of appreciating how 180 the 90s were.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26850182)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Yapping bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49032524)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:40 PM
Author: sexy burgundy business firm pistol

Fuck no. What kind of loser would take either of those?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849244)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:42 PM
Author: Domesticated impressive people who are hurt

I thought we had true 90s lovers here. The second one isn't so bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849257)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:47 PM
Author: sexy burgundy business firm pistol

Only people who have a shit job and shit family/friends now would find an opportunity have a shit job and no friends appealing (regardless of the decade).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849284)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 4:24 PM
Author: Sickened incel

In a heart beat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849889)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 5:41 PM
Author: Yapping bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49032993)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:03 PM
Author: Wonderful geriatric rigpig trailer park

*gets raped immediately*

*catches AIDS*

*dies horrifically 6 months later*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849026)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:05 PM
Author: cracking elite indian lodge macaca

Yes

Get in on the tech bubble, and you'll be set for life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849035)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 4:27 PM
Author: Sickened incel

this / simple knowledge of meta technological trends and market moves will allow you to profit astronomically

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849904)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:05 PM
Author: irradiated pervert

Why they fuck would you want to go again through school, testing, job interviews, working in TTT jerbs for assholes, saving money, and the Bush presidency?

Other than social shit and knowing you could correct all the mistakes you made socially wtf would you want to do that shit again?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849037)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:06 PM
Author: cracking elite indian lodge macaca

Spring Break Cancun with Jerry Springer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849044)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:07 PM
Author: sable locale wrinkle

The OP's hypo says you are your current age and know nothing of the coming boom, so it doesn't really seem like any benefit at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849050)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:14 PM
Author: Racy bonkers coffee pot

The hypo would be better if you had general knowledge of future events like computers will be big, but not specific events like: don't do a tour of the wtc on 9/11/01.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849097)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:16 PM
Author: Buff Internal Respiration

This may be one of the worst hypos in the history of this board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849105)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:16 PM
Author: Racy bonkers coffee pot

what was one of the best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849110)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 5:06 PM
Author: crimson brunch affirmative action

How many 5 yr olds could you kill with no break.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26850157)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 5:13 PM
Author: thriller hissy fit sandwich

That was an epic thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26850197)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:17 PM
Author: Salmon useless ratface home

This hypo suckkkks! FART

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849111)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:23 PM
Author: Aromatic lake cuck market

If I could get my Burger King job back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849143)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:31 PM
Author: Vengeful excitant circlehead

*waves goodbye over shoulder without looking back*

EDIT: Just read the remainder of the hypo and no, I wouldn't want to go back to 1993 to be homeless and likely die of starvation/some gross homeless disease within a year or two. If I wanted to do that I could walk out my door and be homeless today. Whether it was 1993 or not wouldn't really matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849186)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:33 PM
Author: Beady-eyed anal senate

lolwut, homeless with no friends and family? please work on your hypo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849205)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:39 PM
Author: Domesticated impressive people who are hurt

There has to be a price for living in the 90s again. See version 2 of the hypo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849235)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:42 PM
Author: Buff Internal Respiration

Your version 2 is like Scott Norwood getting a second chance to kick that fg in Super Bowl XXV and missing it wide left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849255)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:44 PM
Author: Domesticated impressive people who are hurt

I know the first one is nuts, but living in the 90s again might be worth it to someone.

The second one should have some people going for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849269)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:44 PM
Author: Beady-eyed anal senate

what's so great about the 90s? the only thing great about the 90s was music. technology was awful. having a 486 with dos and having my mom yell at me for hogging the phone line to sign onto compuserve/prodigy/aol are all TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849270)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 2:45 PM
Author: Domesticated impressive people who are hurt

America hadn't become a festering TTT in steep decline yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849275)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 6:27 PM
Author: Yapping bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49033139)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 4:27 PM
Author: jet drunken church building really tough guy

no iPhone or iPad and slow as shit internet? NO WAY MAN.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849899)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 2:51 PM
Author: Yapping bbw

Okay, I lol'd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49032523)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 4:28 PM
Author: aquamarine disrespectful newt

"no gay marriage | no way"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849907)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 2:51 PM
Author: Yapping bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49032522)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 4:25 PM
Author: Titillating Cuckoldry Hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49032753)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 4:26 PM
Author: Yapping bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49032754)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 4:29 PM
Author: Chest-beating electric knife stag film

heh heh but seriously whats the real catch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26849912)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 10:52 AM
Author: Yapping bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49031829)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 5:04 PM
Author: heady flesh fanboi

I remember 1993 like it was yesterday. It was all so innocent and fun. I'd spend my days playing video games and riding my bike. How things have changed!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26850138)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 6:29 PM
Author: Yapping bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49033148)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 6:29 PM
Author: Yapping bbw

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Only_Yesterday_(1991_film)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49033151)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 5:05 PM
Author: hideous idiot

I would kill Kill KILL to go back to my 13 yo self in 1993.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26850146)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 5:08 PM
Author: Marvelous national faggot firefighter

"current age"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26850164)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 5:08 PM
Author: hideous idiot

:(

No.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26850166)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: Yapping bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49033074)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 5:16 PM
Author: supple native

probably. it doesn't really look like there is some imminent 'futuristic' game-changing technological development--eternal life via genetic manipulation or something--that we might be missing out on, if we bailed on the 21st century. things seem to just be stagnating or getting worse. so i don't really see the downside.

i would be more interested in going further back than 1993, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26850222)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 5:20 PM
Author: hideous idiot

i'd go back to about 1984

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26850244)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 5:24 PM
Author: supple native

tcr

somewhere between 1973- 1985 would be ecstasy for me. i have always been completely fascinated by that period, since i was a small child looking at old Sears catalogs i found in our attic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26850270)



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Date: December 3rd, 2014 5:25 PM
Author: hideous idiot

what year were you born?

the mid 80s- early 90s were the zenith of American culture and society. by the over-glorified late 90s, we'd entered a period of decay, I'd argue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#26850274)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Yapping bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49027012)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 2:08 AM
Author: indecent center goal in life

*balding, homeless lawyer from the future stumbles into 1993 Pizza Hut parking lot, mouth so parched he cannot speak*

*picks up a piece of bark mulch from the flowerbed and begins hastily scrawling something onto the sidewalk*

"I'M HERE FOR THE PIZZA PAR.."

*keels over and dies*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49027192)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: Yapping bbw

“He really liked it here, however briefly.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49031821)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 3:54 PM
Author: Ruby voyeur trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49032693)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: Yapping bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49032734)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 3:04 PM
Author: Coiffed clear foreskin dragon

US cities were so much more dangerous in the 90s than they are now. I will die on this hill. People talk about how bad places like DC are today as if they weren't practically warzones in 1994.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49032562)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: rambunctious shrine

so I just go back in time as some middle aged doofus alone in the world? that sounds awful. do I get a billion dollars or something at least?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49032567)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: Boyish cheese-eating boiling water point

this is a crap hypo. those of us who've maed it but are sick and tired would not go back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49032764)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: Cerebral theater stage blood rage

100%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2745792&forum_id=2],#49032765)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 4:48 PM
Author: Yapping bbw



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Date: June 19th, 2025 6:20 PM
Author: Angry stimulating doctorate

so i'm a 40yo man in a time where girls weren't as slutty, yoga pants hadn't been invented yet, there were a lot fewer asian girls here, and STDs were rampant? wow sign me up

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Date: June 19th, 2025 6:31 PM
Author: Cerebral theater stage blood rage

"and STDs were rampant"

u people are so fuckin dumb

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