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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
arousing set police squad
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
Lascivious church building
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
tantric location tattoo
  06/15/18
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primrose medicated knife
  06/15/18
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primrose medicated knife
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
White judgmental round eye
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
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  10/06/21
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arousing set police squad
  02/12/22
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boner police?s buttondick
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
diverse mischievous national jew
  06/15/18
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primrose medicated knife
  06/15/18
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Sapphire passionate deer antler weed whacker
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
diverse mischievous national jew
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
Pearly out-of-control shitlib
  06/15/18
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Sooty Electric Spot Keepsake Machete
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
primrose medicated knife
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
Red Institution Clown
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Outnumbered senate wagecucks
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Copper indian lodge marketing idea
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
White judgmental round eye
  06/15/18
sounds 180
diverse mischievous national jew
  06/15/18
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Sooty Electric Spot Keepsake Machete
  06/15/18
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Sapphire passionate deer antler weed whacker
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
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primrose medicated knife
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tantric location tattoo
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Sapphire passionate deer antler weed whacker
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https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
Sapphire passionate deer antler weed whacker
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Copper indian lodge marketing idea
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Canary at-the-ready giraffe hospital
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Sapphire passionate deer antler weed whacker
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Canary at-the-ready giraffe hospital
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
arousing set police squad
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arousing set police squad
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
Garnet black woman ticket booth
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
arousing set police squad
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Beady-eyed clear chapel
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
arousing set police squad
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Beady-eyed clear chapel
  06/15/18
Explain
arousing set police squad
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arousing set police squad
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arousing set police squad
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Canary at-the-ready giraffe hospital
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
Carnelian corn cake school
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
Deranged piazza cumskin
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arousing set police squad
  02/12/21
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Histrionic point laser beams
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Sapphire passionate deer antler weed whacker
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arousing set police squad
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
submissive wine property
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
180 buff site roommate
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
arousing set police squad
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
tan bat shit crazy parlor multi-billionaire
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
arousing set police squad
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
tan bat shit crazy parlor multi-billionaire
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
arousing set police squad
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
shaky new version locus
  02/12/21
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Histrionic point laser beams
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
submissive wine property
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
shaky new version locus
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
Bronze sandwich
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
shaky new version locus
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
Bronze sandwich
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
180 buff site roommate
  02/12/21
lol no
navy business firm
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
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arousing set police squad
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arousing set police squad
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french home
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
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  10/06/21
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arousing set police squad
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: arousing set police squad

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Lascivious church building

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: tantric location tattoo

As I understand it.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: primrose medicated knife



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: primrose medicated knife



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: White judgmental round eye

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: violet travel guidebook native

oh we got a legal expert here

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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: arousing set police squad



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: boner police?s buttondick ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: diverse mischievous national jew

they have no debt as I understand it

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: primrose medicated knife



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Sapphire passionate deer antler weed whacker



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: diverse mischievous national jew

260k is a huge salary

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Pearly out-of-control shitlib

goes a long way in shaker heights

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Sooty Electric Spot Keepsake Machete



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: primrose medicated knife

Cr. Thats city janitor money

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Red Institution Clown

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Outnumbered senate wagecucks

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Copper indian lodge marketing idea

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: White judgmental round eye

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: diverse mischievous national jew

sounds 180

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Sooty Electric Spot Keepsake Machete



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Sapphire passionate deer antler weed whacker



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: lime abnormal background story

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: primrose medicated knife



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: tantric location tattoo



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Sapphire passionate deer antler weed whacker



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Sapphire passionate deer antler weed whacker

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Copper indian lodge marketing idea



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Canary at-the-ready giraffe hospital



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Sapphire passionate deer antler weed whacker



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: Canary at-the-ready giraffe hospital



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: arousing set police squad

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: arousing set police squad



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Garnet black woman ticket booth

omg 260k where do they get off

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: arousing set police squad

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Beady-eyed clear chapel

p depressing news going into the weekend

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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: arousing set police squad

Eat my dick nigger lover

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Beady-eyed clear chapel

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: arousing set police squad

Explain

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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: arousing set police squad



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: arousing set police squad



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Canary at-the-ready giraffe hospital



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Carnelian corn cake school

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Deranged piazza cumskin

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: arousing set police squad



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Histrionic point laser beams



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Sapphire passionate deer antler weed whacker



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: arousing set police squad



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: submissive wine property

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: 180 buff site roommate

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: arousing set police squad

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: tan bat shit crazy parlor multi-billionaire

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: arousing set police squad

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: tan bat shit crazy parlor multi-billionaire

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: arousing set police squad

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: shaky new version locus

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Histrionic point laser beams



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: submissive wine property

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: shaky new version locus

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: Bronze sandwich

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: shaky new version locus

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: Bronze sandwich

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: 180 buff site roommate

(Stevie Brogan)

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: navy business firm

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: stimulating opaque area factory reset button

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: arousing set police squad



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: arousing set police squad



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: french home



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: purple flirting community account

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: arousing set police squad



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