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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Curious jap puppy Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36252934) |
Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM Author: Aromatic awkward temple “I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36252952) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM Author: scarlet organic girlfriend lettuce As I understand it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253562) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM Author: Flirting newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253586) |
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM Author: Flirting newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#43955228) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: sooty vivacious area pozpig they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36252972) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM Author: Mentally impaired saffron shrine liquid oxygen oh we got a legal expert here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#43231415) |
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM Author: Curious jap puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#43955203) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM Author: boner police?s buttondick ((zurich is stained)) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#49178217) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: free-loading maize crackhouse they have no debt as I understand it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36252979) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM Author: Flirting newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253066) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM Author: Ultramarine piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253623) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM Author: free-loading maize crackhouse 260k is a huge salary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36252984) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: Arousing station boiling water goes a long way in shaker heights (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36252989) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: gold corner clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253024) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: Flirting newt Cr. Thats city janitor money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253068) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: Flushed shitlib Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36252986) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM Author: Amethyst Keepsake Machete Garrison How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41935785) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: Primrose galvanic cruise ship It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36252995) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: sooty vivacious area pozpig they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253002) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: free-loading maize crackhouse sounds 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253004) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM Author: gold corner clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253030) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM Author: Ultramarine piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253696) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: fiercely-loyal immigrant foreskin https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253012) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: Flirting newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253073) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM Author: scarlet organic girlfriend lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253597) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM Author: Ultramarine piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253628) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM Author: Ultramarine piazza https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253692) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: Primrose galvanic cruise ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253708) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM Author: spectacular church building really tough guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36254559) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM Author: Ultramarine piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41949790) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM Author: spectacular church building really tough guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#43231423) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: Curious jap puppy is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#43231447) |
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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: Curious jap puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#48564541) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#49178251) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM Author: lime unholy fat ankles omg 260k where do they get off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253074) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: Curious jap puppy For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253521) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM Author: bonkers useless property p depressing news going into the weekend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253537) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM Author: Curious jap puppy Eat my dick nigger lover (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253786) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM Author: bonkers useless property your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36254215) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Curious jap puppy Explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36254517) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: Curious jap puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36256523) |
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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: Curious jap puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36743851) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM Author: spectacular church building really tough guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36254823) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: Impertinent rehab yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253827) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: magenta violent travel guidebook nursing home To be fair,
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM Author: Curious jap puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933386) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM Author: Laughsome cruel-hearted stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933826) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM Author: Ultramarine piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41949789) |
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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM Author: Curious jap puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#43271055) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM Author: glittery very tactful library I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933507) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM Author: Thriller Olive Halford Main People holy shit
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM Author: Curious jap puppy or at least give us vault range. that is really low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933783) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM Author: sickened locus Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: Curious jap puppy it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933852) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM Author: sickened locus That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933882) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM Author: Curious jap puppy i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41949761) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: White chapel They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933851) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM Author: Laughsome cruel-hearted stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933950) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM Author: glittery very tactful library No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41935758) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM Author: White chapel Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41935989) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM Author: Rusted stimulating theatre elastic band Better partnership odds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41935999) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM Author: White chapel That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41936016) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM Author: Rusted stimulating theatre elastic band Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41936043) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM Author: Thriller Olive Halford Main People (Stevie Brogan) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41935792) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM Author: Wonderful shimmering orchestra pit associate lol no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41935828) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM Author: coral maniacal boltzmann pit how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41949811) |
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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM Author: Curious jap puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#42703414) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM Author: Curious jap puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#43231403) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: Ocher gaping that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#43231452) |
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