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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Snowy kitchen turdskin
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Odious mustard police squad
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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nyuug
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Glittery tripping university useless brakes
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Submissive provocative area associate
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Glittery tripping university useless brakes
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Submissive provocative area associate
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Glittery tripping university useless brakes
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
cyan shrine clown
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soul-stirring generalized bond
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razzmatazz red stage haunted graveyard
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
histrionic fortuitous meteor field
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cq
Fighting curious lodge messiness
  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
greedy factory reset button
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
cyan shrine clown
  07/02/25
i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
180 Hell
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
Know-it-all Parlour Twinkling Uncleanness
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Snowy kitchen turdskin

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Odious mustard police squad

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Odious mustard police squad

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Odious mustard police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Odious mustard police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Odious mustard police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Odious mustard police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Odious mustard police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Odious mustard police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Odious mustard police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Odious mustard police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Odious mustard police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Odious mustard police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49128622)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Glittery tripping university useless brakes

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Submissive provocative area associate

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Glittery tripping university useless brakes

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Submissive provocative area associate

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Glittery tripping university useless brakes

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: cyan shrine clown

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: soul-stirring generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: razzmatazz red stage haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: histrionic fortuitous meteor field

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Fighting curious lodge messiness

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: greedy factory reset button

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: cyan shrine clown

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: 180 Hell

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Know-it-all Parlour Twinkling Uncleanness

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: motley elite brethren

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2],#49105022)