What's the main takehome point from the Old Testament? Where's it all go?
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Date: June 26th, 2025 1:23 AM
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is there anything outsiders need to be warned about, like there is with Islam?
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Date: June 26th, 2025 2:01 AM Author: "'''""""'"'
it's a dismal and laborious tract written in shifts by a cabal of patriarchal control freaks in the thankless and unenviable position of governing one of the most fractious and argumentative tribes on the planet while also hiding from and being full of repressed hatred for their harridan wives, detailing their various whorings-out by and on behalf of various Levantine/Arabian proto-Semitic and beyond "pagan" deities, all of which were later all wrapped up under the "YHWH" banner for the sakes of external-facing consistency and a very important but perhaps commonly misunderstood question only answered after-the-fact about the importance (although not supremacy, and the word-choice there is important. even "supremacy" is said under a certain ineffable light here. what i mean is not adequately describable in cheap digital text.) of monotheistic worship
the parts of the oral torah i've received are a bit different and much more interesting/aware of...something although you have to do a bit of digging and cajoling (i'm an art student. it worked for the israelis around 9/11, anyway) to get it condescendingly spoken at you in an indecipherable accent
it provides: a generally decent to good although narrow and finicky moral code to live by but by and large it i doubt that it is "perfect" nor is it likely the "indisputable word of god". authorship is questionable and messy and it doesn't always match the historical record provided by other scribal cultures and civilizations to a T. the rabbinical (and for their own part, and for aims that often but don't always overlap, the christian) commentaries surrounding it built up during succeeding eras deal with this in detail and for the most part manage to reconcile things you'd never think would be reconcilable considering the intellectual and conceptual difficulty involved in doing so.
it doesn't provide: all sorts of answers to questions and issues posed in other epochs that can really only be satisfactorily answered by thinkers and tools of thought and perspective from those same epochs.
imo, the most important jewish thinker after christ was not paul or maimonides (pbuh) but a dry, salty, and world-weary dutch jew named baruch spinoza. he comes at the worldview posed by the OT with a sort of busy fury that only can come from genuine love from the heart and produces a set of the most jewish and scripture affirming texts that the world has ever seen in the process.
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Date: June 26th, 2025 2:15 AM Author: "'''""""'"'
genesis 32: 27-28
(27.) The man asked him, "What is your name?" "Jacob," he answered.
(28.) Then the man said, "Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men and have overcome."
that's spinoza's story, and the story of many other "great jews" as well.
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