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Hard to think of anything more overrated than being "smart"
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:06 PM Author: frum cruel-hearted range Congratulations, you got a 5 on AP Calc. That's it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928003) |
Date: June 10th, 2026 2:07 PM Author: primrose home I think it's properly rated by most people; just smart people tend to overrate it because mommy told them they were special (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928004) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:11 PM Author: frum cruel-hearted range Mommy and also their own peers -- it's the one race everyone participates in from 5-18 so if you're consistently near the top you are led to believe that you are special or that that is enough and that everything from there on out will work out accordingly. Nothing could be further from the truth.
I do think most people overrate it. Even in the higher echelons of the professional world, it matters. In the legal world where you went to college and law school never stops mattering and your grades in law school matter for too long. |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:34 PM Author: primrose home > you are led to believe that you are special or that that is enough and that everything from there on out will work out accordingly
huh. either I was never exposed to this messaging due to circumstances of my upbringing, or it didn't sink in because the self-loathing took hold so early |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:46 PM Author: Dull Cuckoldry that's because you grew up somewhere where smart people are extraordinarily concentrated. a perfect SAT would get you in the newspaper in some places but if you grow up in eg palo alto it doesn't even get a mention in homeroom since half the class is that smart (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928137) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:53 PM Author: primrose home true, that explains why I was never convinced I was "special" but not why I was never led to believe that being smart means everything will work out great (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928149) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 3:54 PM Author: Dull Cuckoldry reward structure. school until college rewards being smart and not much else. a reasonably smart person can basically sleepwalk through 99% of high schools in the US, you went to the 1% where they can't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928271) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 3:55 PM Author: primrose home well I sleepwalked and was valedictorian but the other top kids were only lower because they all took band, which was unweighted. bunch of us were indistinguishable w/r/t intelligence as far as I could tell. so your point stands (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928274) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:12 PM Author: talented medicated school How would you know you midwit brownoid? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928017) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:12 PM Author: frum cruel-hearted range You spent $25k on a closet system "smart" guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928018) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:14 PM Author: talented medicated school $25k is not a lot of money for people smart and talented enough to make real money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928024) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:17 PM Author: frum cruel-hearted range It shows you’re very dumb actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928033) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:22 PM Author: talented medicated school "Actually being poor proves how smart I am" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928061) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:54 PM Author: Coiffed private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928153) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:08 PM Author: frum cruel-hearted range No, spending $25k on painted shelves and calling them a "closet system" makes you very, very dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928318) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:12 PM Author: nudist snowy juggernaut chad Certainly doesnt matter any more now that computers are smarter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928019) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:18 PM Author: frum cruel-hearted range Too early to say but a lot of people tie up their self-worth in intelligence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928038) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:57 PM Author: Blathering Sweet Tailpipe A lot of people tie up their self-worth in [insert a wide range of qualities assigned at birth]
And very little of it really matters, although I would say that being very attractive is probably disproportionately advantageous relative to the rest |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 3:56 PM Author: talented medicated school For men: Race >>>>>>>> Height >>>>>> Intelligence > Drive >>> Attractiveness
For women: Race >>>>>>>> Attractiveness > Submissiveness |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 3:58 PM Author: primrose home move race to third or fourth for both if you're talking about objective importance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928283) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:02 PM Author: talented medicated school It the current brownoid kike hellworld that's crumbing. For the 5000 years before the mid 20th century and the 5000 years to come: LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928301) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:03 PM Author: primrose home I'm far from a shitlib but I feel like every take I've seen from you is weird stupid reactionary shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928304) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:06 PM Author: talented medicated school That's fine. Every revolution is 5% fanatics and 95% cucks that gripe about the extremism but do nothing and go with whichever way the wind blows. So long as you're white you'll be welcome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928313) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:00 PM Author: nudist snowy juggernaut chad You really think race is that important? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928289) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:03 PM Author: talented medicated school Are you a brownoid? Yes I do and I could not have been clearer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928306) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:15 PM Author: nudist snowy juggernaut chad Mediterranean, actually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928347) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:24 PM Author: talented medicated school LOL you called Gujerreddit the highest IQ poaster the other day and now you're saying your Mediterranean? Can't tell if you're him or if it's jeet solidarity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928380) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:26 PM Author: nudist snowy juggernaut chad I didn't say he was THE highest iq poaster, just that he is probably one of the top on 2026 xo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928382) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:27 PM Author: talented medicated school Sup NS? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928386) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:04 PM Author: Blathering Sweet Tailpipe Interesting. I don't agree with this framework, but it's cool to try to map this shit out
I don't have much drive for conventional things and have often thought that's my biggest detriment. I feel like drive in a vacuum can overcome more than intellect can, but I can see how warped that perspective can be from someone who is smarter than driven
I can see how fucking infuriating it might be to be full or drive while having enough smarts to know that you're not smart enough to really take advantage of it
On balance, I kind of prefer things just being easy and having enough understanding to know even the smart ones are dumb and that none of this shit really matters
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:07 PM Author: primrose home drive is soooooooo much more important. I've probably met dozens of people with +3 stdev intelligence who are living totally normal lives in terms of conventional success metrics bc can't be assed to apply themselves (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928314) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:11 PM Author: Blathering Sweet Tailpipe This is my view as well. And I don't think it's just bias from my personal circumstances. Assuming baseline intellect, drive is sufficient. But I think it would be a special kind of hell to have tremendous drive and simply be too dumb and too unattractive to ever turn it to your advantage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928323) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:13 PM Author: primrose home agreed except if you're born with enough financial priv, the sky is the limit, I mean literally you can be average and become a trillionaire, or below average and president, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928334) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:17 PM Author: Blathering Sweet Tailpipe Oh yeah, for sure. All of this shit has to be built on assuming a baseline, nondescript starting point. Everything goes out the window if you assume you're starting as a crack baby quadriplegic or the lone child of a billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928357) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:36 PM Author: primrose home 💯💯 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928430) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:15 PM Author: frum cruel-hearted range >But I think it would be a special kind of hell to have tremendous drive and simply be too dumb and too unattractive to ever turn it to your advantage
1. Baseline intellect needed for success assuming sufficient drive is very, very low. Like 1100 on the SAT low.
2. I'd still rather be too dumb and have tremendous drive than "smart" and lazy like almost everyone here. Cue Theodore Roosevelt's 'Man in the Arena' quote. |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:21 PM Author: Blathering Sweet Tailpipe 1 - Agreed. You have to be noticeably dumb or have other defects or bad luck (fall into addiction or get into a bad car wreck, for example) for this not to be true
2 - To me, it depends on what you think the desired outcome is. As long as I don't fuck anything up or the market doesn't turn into the lost decade, I'm going to retire in just a couple of years. Seems like a good outcome to me that beats out years of rigorous drive to get to the same destination |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:28 PM Author: frum cruel-hearted range I think being smart and lazy, unable to achieve the potential you thought you once had, is its own special kind of hell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928390) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:34 PM Author: Blathering Sweet Tailpipe I substitute "happiness" for "potential." Being focused on the latter goes awry similarly to focusing on some kind of grand legacy. It's a fools errand limited in ways you cannot see by circumstances you can't imagine or control
But that's the beauty of all of this: we have our individual mixes of values and points of emphasis that matter to us. I hope you maximize whatever it is that does it for you, regardless of whether it's what does it for me |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:46 PM Author: frum cruel-hearted range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928470) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:23 PM Author: talented medicated school Unfortunately you're dumb and lazy which is why you're poor.
It's not your fault. It was cruel to let brownoids comingle in the West, for us and for you. Like putting a bowtie on an ape and thinking they'll be just like people. No, you stink and shit up everything here and you're unhappy stuck in a foreign environment permanently on the lowest rung trying futily to overcome your genetics. |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:12 PM Author: Coiffed private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928326) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:12 PM Author: frum cruel-hearted range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928327) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:13 PM Author: talented medicated school I almost (and perhaps should have) did intelligence = drive.
Driven people have a high rate of success regardless of intelligence. Think Scumbag contractors doing cash only small business. Intelligence isn't worth anything when it comes to material success without drive.
But I put intelligence first because intelligence confers benefits and understanding outside of material success. Diogeneses and Bukowski had Rich Inner Worlds and there are many lazy smartmos like them that will never did anything and are quickly forgotten that, but achieved great insight and understanding just poasting. |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 3:46 PM Author: nudist snowy juggernaut chad And like I said now that computers are smarter it doesn't matter as much and a lot of egos are broken (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928242) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 3:47 PM Author: primrose home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928248) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 3:48 PM Author: nudist snowy juggernaut chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928250) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:19 PM Author: Gaped mad cow disease becky these so called 'smart' scientists need to get working on a Covid or Ebola that targets Sand nigger DNA and wipes you bipedal pieces of goat fucking shit off the planet for good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928047) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:23 PM Author: frum cruel-hearted range This was somebody’s smart kid, whose parents were likely proud of his intelligence and bragged about it to their friends and family. And for what? To post nonsensical angry drivel like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928065) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:37 PM Author: Fragrant internet-worthy temple puppy It's a product of society being built around and for the maximization of technocapital (abstracted intelligence) rather than for biological humans (animals)
Read goy superstar and Nick land tp |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 3:57 PM Author: talented medicated school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928277) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:42 PM Author: Dull Cuckoldry being smart is the single most 180 trait to have when it comes to experiencing life and being able to do shit ( second to Height of course, but that goes without saying). i am extremely jealous of geniusmos. i would cut a leg off in exchange for +20 iq points (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928118) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:46 PM Author: Fragrant internet-worthy temple puppy If you were Actually Smart you would have just written "Everything Is Phenotype" instead of this collection of wordbabble
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Date: June 10th, 2026 2:49 PM Author: chocolate pontificating police squad Life is one big, long IQ test. Everything is downstream of IQ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928142) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 3:57 PM Author: Blathering Sweet Tailpipe I don't agree with this, but with how dumb even our "smarts" really are, it would explain why everything is so fucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928278) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 3:59 PM Author: nudist snowy juggernaut chad lol no. it's like 99.9% social skills and attractiveness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928284) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:00 PM Author: primrose home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928288) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:03 PM Author: Dull Cuckoldry i read books with like <10% of the recall that someone with +20 iq points can and it takes me far longer to understand concepts. many concepts are simply beyond my reach. downstream of that is being smart just enables you to simply do more shit with your life and experience things that are inaccessible to someone less intelligent
you can fix or feign social skills. attractiveness is really only an issue if you're ass ugly, otherwise going to the gym and putting in a modest amount of effort is all it takes. but reading a lot of books is not going to make you smarter
intelligence has less inherent value than attractiveness because e.g. a hot girl gets rewarded just by existing. a smart guy who smokes meth and works at a gas station does not benefit from being intelligent. but the guy working at a gas station has far more opportunities and experiences available to him should he so choose to pursue them. the hot girl is hot, she cannot become a neurosurgeon or geoguessr world champion or whatever the fuck. |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:09 PM Author: nudist snowy juggernaut chad You are already at the top of the bell curve that's high enough. Do you really think it would enrich your life to be able to easily naturally do pure math and physics proofs. I don't really think it would. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928321) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:13 PM Author: Dull Cuckoldry yeah man. I would give my left nut to be like MPA and just whiz through books and actually retain the shit I am reading. that alone seems like a magical and amazing superpower which makes for a significantly richer inner world. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928336) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:18 PM Author: nudist snowy juggernaut chad Would definitely be 180 to be able to do creative writing as good as MPA, I'll give you that. I don't really care about reading speed though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928362) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:14 PM Author: Blathering Sweet Tailpipe P1 - this only matters if the things that become accessible are material for your quality of life. It also overlooks that some areas of understanding are net negative, which is why there's a lot of depression among smart people
P2 - you overlook that many people have made very successful careers out of feigning intelligence. In both cases (intelligence and social skills), it takes someone who knows better to be able to see through it easily |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:16 PM Author: Dull Cuckoldry the point isn't "you need to be smart to be successful". it is overrated as it pertains to "how much money you can make", sure. but being smart on the whole is not overrated, it's massively underrated as people generally don't realize just how significantly the way they perceive the world and what they are capable of would shift with more raw intellectual horsepower. which is for the best to be fair, it wouldn't particularly benefit society to have everyone walking around seething envious of smart people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928352) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:00 PM Author: talented medicated school Being open to new experiences and having the courage to do them is the most 180 trait. 85iq scumbags riding jetskis and fucking scumbaguettes are experiencing way more life than most geniuses.
Kenny Powers > Some genius mingling with dorks at symposiums |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:01 PM Author: nudist snowy juggernaut chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928299) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:09 PM Author: Dull Cuckoldry you can actively practice "being open to new experiences" and Just Do Things. and in any case despite perceptions neuroticism is less common as IQ increases. but there's no One | Weird | Trick to download an extra standard deviation or two of intelligence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928319) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:36 PM Author: talented medicated school I agree that drive and just Doing Things is not immutable like intelligence. Nevertheless almost no one develops this later in life so the fact that it's technically possible is a fairly meaningless distinction when 99.9% of people won't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928432) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:14 PM Author: fluffy bright property mad-dog skullcap well say if zionist jews use some scammy molestation derived case to artificially restrict your intellect then you won't be able to defend yourself in a court of law it's pretty important |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:17 PM Author: primrose home wow I've seen you move from slightly pro-Israel a few months ago to anti-Zio schizo fixation 1800000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928358) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 5:43 PM Author: fluffy bright property mad-dog skullcap i'm a zionist myself but the definitions of the term have wildly branched off as of years ago and kike crooks such as "Emilio" have been taking advantage of this to be dumb niggers, as is their nature i'm pro israel in theory but have many issues with it in practice suffice to say i don't agree with any of what's going on and this is one reason amongst a few as to why these crooks are mugging me |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:31 PM Author: Excitant duck-like gunner Im gay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928409) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:48 PM Author: indecent meetinghouse hominid If you cant understand why haviny implanted hardware that improves every decision you make every day and how over millions of occurrences that compounds into a laughable advantage then your fag brown mommy was lying to you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928480) |
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Date: June 10th, 2026 4:48 PM Author: slate mother 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5872816&forum_id=2],#49928483) |