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Is Jewish Physics real?

I'm talking not of whether the physics itself is real, but d...
The Penis
  04/27/26
It's slightly complicated. Physics is so far removed from...
cucumbers
  04/27/26
I think the main reason they called something Jewish Physics...
The Penis
  04/27/26
I'm reading up on this and see the point the Nazis were maki...
cucumbers
  04/27/26
Yeah I think its mostly the result of physics becoming incre...
The Penis
  04/27/26
You guys talking about Jews in the field reminds me of this ...
oomox
  04/27/26
I was actually about to bring up the idea of Jewish Mathemat...
The Penis
  04/27/26
Cr I remember that being part of Emmy Noether's story. She w...
oomox
  04/27/26
My favorite part of her story was when she was working under...
The Penis
  04/27/26
That's 18000000. Do people still find those areas overly abs...
oomox
  04/27/26
Not really as much these days I think, because most of them ...
The Penis
  04/27/26
Grothendieck is also a really great name
oomox
  04/27/26
Wtf? Paralegal mohamed?
UN peacekeeper
  04/28/26
1. No, lots of jewish physics (yes incl quantum) has enormou...
UN peacekeeper
  04/27/26
Yeah I guess I missed that one: Witten was born on August...
The Penis
  04/27/26
Physics also has enormous predictive problems and problems o...
cucumbers
  04/27/26
Interpretation problems are the biggest issue imo. The "...
The Penis
  04/27/26
thinking that quantum needs an interpretation is itself a di...
UN peacekeeper
  04/27/26
Bohr was also Jewish and famously accused of Jewish Physics....
The Penis
  04/27/26
the pyramids were built with jewish physics
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  04/27/26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martians_(scientists)
UhOh
  04/27/26
there really is a strain of 'Jewish physics' that is complet...
,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,...,:,.,..:.,:.::,.
  04/27/26
idk, Einstein was a legit genius who did more for 20th physi...
The Penis
  04/27/26
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Date: April 27th, 2026 8:30 PM
Author: The Penis

I'm talking not of whether the physics itself is real, but do you think there could potentially actually be a category "Jewish Physics" thats different in nature from other physics? Also white men still appear to be able to make Jewish Physics. For instance Heisenberg was called a White Jew for his involvement in Jewish Physics. Schrodinger also was white and produced Jewish Physics and Dirac too. Lorrentz, a dutchman, escaped the label of Jewish Physics for several reasons. Proponents of the idea of Jewish Physics being a thing said his math was fine and Einstein's Jewish interpretation of lack of an absolute reference frame was the problem. There are also more modern White Men who appear to be practicing Jewish Physics, like Penrose, Witten and Hawking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49847738)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 8:49 PM
Author: cucumbers

It's slightly complicated.

Physics is so far removed from everyday experience, common sense, human society, etc. that it's irrelevant who's doing the work in physics. Photons aren't concerned with who's Jewish.

The most popular conception of "Jewish physics" comes from the Nazis when they chased out Jewish physicists from all German schools after calling their work less Aryan for some reason that I don't remember.

The modern reality is that "Jewish physics" still exists through the extreme over-representation of Jews in academic physics and among Nobel prize winners in physics. It's just Jews being tribal Jews, which is nothing new.

Libs might call this racist, but at the same time, libs are retarded and came up with their own racist but more socially-acceptable concept of "white male science." The idea is probably even more racist than what the Nazis dreamed up to the extent that the concept is even coherent. But this is just lib academics jerking each other off into irrelevance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49847763)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: The Penis

I think the main reason they called something Jewish Physics other than the practitioner being literally Jewish was the level of abstraction. If the math dictated the reality it was Jewish. In Relativity Einstein used the Lorentz transformations to say space and time themselves were flexible. To Nazis, this was talmudic hair-splitting—using math to trick the senses into believing something that wasn't naturally visible. I think the idea that Jews used more abstractions in physics is reasonable, but Nazis went too far with this. Like they crippled their entire nuclear program because they refused to use E = mc^2. I agree with you that libs are retarded and "white male science" and attacks on "reason and logic" being "white" are more retarded and racist. And America probably has a similar problem that Germany did (crippled their sciences by getting rid of Jews, America is probably crippling literally every field even worse by getting rid of white males). And yeah I think "white male science" is even less coherent. Jewish Physics at least has some truth to it even if it relied on a "no true scotsman fallacy" much of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49847778)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: cucumbers

I'm reading up on this and see the point the Nazis were making: theoretical physics being Jewish vs. more practical/experimental physics being Aryan. Obviously this is highly flawed thinking with too many exceptions, like the ones you mentioned. Just taking Einstein as an example, the Nazi concept falls apart: Einstein's general relativity was called "Jewish physics," but Einstein himself was highly critical of quantum mechanics for being too focused on theory and not a reflection of reality.

Can any of this be applied today? If the Nazis weren't so violent, we'd just call their "Jewish physics" naive, racist, and stupid. The reality is that a lot of modern physics, whether theoretical or experimental, is trash. Take the question of dark matter: tons of varied theoretical explanations with countless experiments finding absolutely nothing. This goes back to my original point: "Jewish physics" only exists as the extreme over-representation of Jews in the field.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49847854)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 9:58 PM
Author: The Penis

Yeah I think its mostly the result of physics becoming increasingly abstract and mathematical throughout the 20th century, and Jews just being overrepresented in the field.

Also I agree Dark matter is complete bullshit. The constraints are derived from what the fluid needs to be to fit the observations, not from any underlying theory of what it is. The term that gets inserted into the stress-energy tensor models CDM as a perfect fluid, zero pressure, zero temperature. There is no evidence something like this could even exist in principle. To me this isn't Jewish Physics, it reminds me more of Caloric theory where it was inferred entirely from the phenomena it was invented to explain. Which was Birdshit folk-physics invented by Lavoisier who was obviously a genius and believed in it, but it was still fake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49847934)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 10:54 PM
Author: oomox

You guys talking about Jews in the field reminds me of this JEWISH MATH story from the USSR: https://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2012/10/04/the-fifth-problem-math-anti-semitism-in-the-soviet-union-edward-frenkel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848102)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 11:04 PM
Author: The Penis

I was actually about to bring up the idea of Jewish Mathematics. It isn't as famous of a concept, but it absolutely existed. Fields like set theory, abstract algebra, and topology were considered Jewish Math and labeled as overly abstract, logical, and "rootless." Emmy Noether was one of the first to be dismissed for it. Hausdorff was a famous example as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848124)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 11:08 PM
Author: oomox

Cr I remember that being part of Emmy Noether's story. She was 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848140)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 11:14 PM
Author: The Penis

My favorite part of her story was when she was working under Hilbert and they didn't want to make her a maths lecturer because she was female and Hilbert said in her defense "This is a University not a BATHHOUSE"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848158)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: oomox

That's 18000000. Do people still find those areas overly abstract?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848173)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 11:30 PM
Author: The Penis

Not really as much these days I think, because most of them have a lot of applications. When I think of Jewish Math actually, the first person who comes to mind is Grothendieck who is the king of abstract metaphysical maths and kooky outside the box topology. He's 180 probably the GOAT POTUS of abstract thought in general. Like a Plato with access to modern day maths.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848190)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 11:33 PM
Author: oomox

Grothendieck is also a really great name

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848193)



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Date: April 28th, 2026 7:55 AM
Author: UN peacekeeper

Wtf? Paralegal mohamed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848495)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 9:54 PM
Author: UN peacekeeper

1. No, lots of jewish physics (yes incl quantum) has enormous predictive power. Obv string theory , dark matter are still theoretical.

2. You havent looked at witten’s’early life’ have you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49847907)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 10:00 PM
Author: The Penis

Yeah I guess I missed that one:

Witten was born on August 26, 1951, in Baltimore, Maryland, to a Jewish family,[8] as the eldest of four children. His brother Matt Witten became a writer, and his brother Jesse Amnon Witten became a law partner in the firm Faegre Drinker Biddle & Reath.[9] Their sister Celia M. Witten earned a Ph.D. in mathematics from Stanford University[10] and then an M.D. from the University of Miami.[11] Edward Witten is the son of Lorraine (born Wollach) Witten[12] and Louis Witten, a theoretical physicist specializing in gravitation and general relativity.[13]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49847947)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 10:12 PM
Author: cucumbers

Physics also has enormous predictive problems and problems of interpretation. Quantum entanglement is the obvious example.

String theory isn't "just" theoretical -- it's a fantasy. You need a particle accelerator the size of the solar system to actually test the theory. It's not going anywhere and is a distraction beyond whatever accidental, ancillary discoveries that came with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49847989)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 10:19 PM
Author: The Penis

Interpretation problems are the biggest issue imo. The "measurement" problem has at least a dozen philosophical interpretations consistent with the physics each with different ontologies. Then there are multiple interpretations at the formalism level too. Heisenberg matrix mechanics vs. Schrodinger wave vs. Feynman path integrals, vs. von neumann algebras, vs. Wigner phase-space formulations (and many more) all describing the same physical observations in "mathematically equivalent" ways that still expose different ontologies. Then it gets hand-waved away by operationalists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848005)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 10:21 PM
Author: UN peacekeeper

thinking that quantum needs an interpretation is itself a distraction at least according to bohr, bousso etc. brian greene & einstein would agree with you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848012)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 10:25 PM
Author: The Penis

Bohr was also Jewish and famously accused of Jewish Physics. And I'm wondering if his operationalist handwaving was a symptom of underlying talmudic relativism. "Shut up and calculate goyim", while conveniently ignoring the fact that we have a massive underdetermination of theory by evidence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848039)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 10:15 PM
Author: ..,;,.,;,..,.,...,.....,.,..,.,


the pyramids were built with jewish physics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49847996)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 10:47 PM
Author: UhOh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martians_(scientists)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848094)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 10:58 PM
Author: ,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,...,:,.,..:.,:.::,.


there really is a strain of 'Jewish physics' that is complete grifting charlatanism and bullshit and mirrors the 'deconstructivist' scam in the social sciences.

Einstein stole most of his ideas from Germans anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848113)



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Date: April 27th, 2026 11:10 PM
Author: The Penis

idk, Einstein was a legit genius who did more for 20th physics than anyone. Dirac was probably #2 followed by Bohr/Heisenberg. I get Einstein needed Lorentz and Hilbert to pull off his big theories, but I wouldn't say he "copied" anyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861154&forum_id=2]#49848145)



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Date: April 28th, 2026 7:31 AM
Author: The Penis



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