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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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dun corner windowlicker
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse
  12/16/25
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dun corner windowlicker
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Drab appetizing feces
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Drab appetizing feces
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Drab appetizing feces
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
dun corner windowlicker
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Drab appetizing feces
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Drab appetizing feces
  12/17/25
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dun corner windowlicker
  12/17/25
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tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
charcoal dog poop
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse
  12/16/25
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charcoal dog poop
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
sick idiotic becky cumskin
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
scarlet metal institution
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Laughsome ivory cuckold round eye
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tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse
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dun corner windowlicker
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
boyish deer antler
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Flushed State Mexican
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boyish deer antler
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dun corner windowlicker
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dun corner windowlicker
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Drab appetizing feces
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Contagious red marketing idea
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: dun corner windowlicker



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: dun corner windowlicker

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Drab appetizing feces

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Drab appetizing feces

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Drab appetizing feces

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: dun corner windowlicker

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Drab appetizing feces

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Drab appetizing feces

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: dun corner windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: charcoal dog poop

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: charcoal dog poop



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: sick idiotic becky cumskin

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: scarlet metal institution

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Laughsome ivory cuckold round eye

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: dun corner windowlicker



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: boyish deer antler

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Flushed State Mexican

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: tan infuriating toaster meetinghouse



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: boyish deer antler



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: dun corner windowlicker



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: dun corner windowlicker



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Drab appetizing feces

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Contagious red marketing idea

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515738)