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Unbelievable how unproductive, time wasting and mindless most F500 employees are
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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:53 AM Author: Flickering stain area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890439) |
Date: April 29th, 2025 11:54 AM Author: Irradiated crusty locale why doesn't capitalism weed them out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890443) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:56 AM Author: Flickering stain area I really don't know. It's a great question. Maybe markets aren't as hyper-competitive as we like to pretend they are. It's a big open secret that anyone who observes these companies becomes privy to the more closely you interact with them (but there's no incentive to change the status quo because the supermajority of people within the company benefit from it, like a gentlemen's agreement that everyone just half-asses things). The average management-layer employee has a calendar full of meetings they don't contribute to but nevertheless sit in on (so they appear "busy"), 4 weeks of paid vacation that they assuredly take to the last minute, a couple weeks of fake sick time they finagle in, and they work a real 10 hours max per week putting together charts and "ideating." Projects take forever to complete; everything is constantly delayed; there are significant inaccuracies and mistakes that get glossed over by higher layers of management and leadership; there's no sense of urgency in anything unless it is externally imposed on them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890453) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:36 PM Author: Hairraiser Elite Base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891413) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 1:44 PM Author: Amethyst infuriating mother place of business Actual capitalism would weed them out. The mutant freak neoliberal GC clown show we have rewards them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890701) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:31 PM Author: Beady-eyed chest-beating stage Actual capitalism has never been tried! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890830) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:36 PM Author: chrome bespoke hall rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890856) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:13 PM Author: Internet-worthy hateful brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891355) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Jade institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891815) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 12:27 PM Author: mustard jap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48893574) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:55 AM Author: boyish henna public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890449) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 12:08 PM Author: narrow-minded hominid point large financialized, publicly traded corps should be thought of as fiefdoms made up of layers of retainers
everyone in every layer has retainers below them who serve them, all the way up to the very top. people are permitted to continue to exist within the organization to the extent that the usefulness that they provide as a retainer to others outweighs any friction or problems that they pose to others
retainers in medieval times didn't do anything most of the time, either. they just existed as parasites on the productive system around them until their lord called on them to do something, just like corporate employees with their boss(es) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 1:36 PM Author: Flickering stain area This is an interesting theory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890685) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:00 PM Author: Glittery forum cr the "Bullshit Jobs" book covers this aspect a little. larger headcount = more important = more power. it also gives individual managers or teams the room to cut headcount later as a tool to look like they're "doing something" in a time of crisis. summary: it's all fraud (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890740) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:25 PM Author: at-the-ready fear-inspiring church That’s actually a rubbish book. I’ve covered this iirc. He doesn’t do a very good job of delving into the BS and it’s kind of hard to do so when you’re a shitlib tbh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890801) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:26 PM Author: Irradiated crusty locale why haven't any conservatives shredded these companies for wasting shareholder money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890806) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:26 PM Author: boyish henna public bath Most of it is him talking about the Nolan Batman movies and also being a jew iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890808) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:33 PM Author: at-the-ready fear-inspiring church He spends a lot of time praising Women and attacking the dumb things the military does. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890839) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:27 PM Author: boyish henna public bath I think I already talked about him being a jew in my poast imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891395) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:38 PM Author: narrow-minded hominid point cr that book sucks and that guy was a Short jewish shitlib
i can't remember if he actually addressed what i described above but i stand by it as cr. anyone who has worked in these orgs can attest to this being how those orgs work |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:06 PM Author: Olive shrine toaster the output of the lower retainers isn't valueless. as the company grows the workforce specializes and becomes formalized. each activity of the company is spread over more and more people, so it becomes commoditized. the roles aren't useless, they are just increasingly simple. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891334) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:17 AM Author: narrow-minded hominid point yeah. also, the lower someone is in the retainer pyramid, the more work they're actually doing (typically) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48893093) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:20 AM Author: Olive shrine toaster Right the actual service most companies provide is very basic and can be performed in a totally rote way. Companies get complex as external relationships and organizational demands increase, hence most people push paper over email. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48893112) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:43 PM Author: UMC PC gaming dad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#49385726) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:28 PM Author: Violent queen of the night pistol i really like it here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890817) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM Author: Flickering stain area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890849) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:32 PM Author: Up-to-no-good Boistinker not really. you just deal with lawyers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890835) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:34 PM Author: at-the-ready fear-inspiring church He’s perfectly describing Fake Jobs. Like 60% of F500 adult male employees with desks/computers have Engineering Deliverables. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890843) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM Author: Flickering stain area He knows this he just feels threatened. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890847) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM Author: Up-to-no-good Boistinker With the amount of RIFs last 3 years, I think most truly unproductive jobs are gone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890852) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:36 PM Author: Flickering stain area This is an insanely retarded POV. Large public companies are full of these positions still. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890857) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:37 PM Author: Up-to-no-good Boistinker please do tell me about these jobs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890865) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:40 PM Author: Flickering stain area I don't know what you would like me to say. I interact with and see this in management layers (especially) at F500 companies every day. The standards and tolerance for shirking / slacking / bullshit / half-assery / not giving a shit are still phenomenally high even after any sort of RIFs that have occurred. As I said above I think part of it is just tacit coordination/collusion--it benefits most people most of the time to keep things like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890879) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 5:57 PM Author: Up-to-no-good Boistinker So no examples? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891307) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 5:59 PM Author: Flickering stain area Would you like me to start identifying individual employees at Raytheon? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891313) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:01 PM Author: Up-to-no-good Boistinker job titles would suffice (open hiring positions?). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891318) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:01 PM Author: Flickering stain area Okay let me pull a couple org. charts and some memos with their info just standby for a while hoss thank you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891320) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:04 PM Author: Up-to-no-good Boistinker tyia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891329) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 8:46 PM Author: brilliant spectacular round eye agreed for most fortune 500's but not for the big banks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891716) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:43 PM Author: at-the-ready fear-inspiring church Check whatever company you’re thinking about and the number of employees in 2019 vs 2025. The only layoffs I can think of were in bloated af tech Firms and western game developers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890891) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:39 PM Author: A Stupid Fucking Retard Drooling lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#49385716) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM Author: Lime provocative fat ankles I have an F100, an F500, and a startup job. Of all of them, F100 is the least efficient and pays the most. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48890848) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 5:50 PM Author: Flickering stain area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891284) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:19 AM Author: boyish henna public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48893104) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:00 PM Author: stirring violet idea he suggested boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891316) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 9:32 PM Author: poppy antidepressant drug nonstop "alignment" meetings where everyone wants to get involved but do nothing. it's pretty amazing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891816) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 10:11 PM Author: at-the-ready fear-inspiring church Only in liberal arts jobs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891947) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 10:17 PM Author: brilliant spectacular round eye my company has all these fucking retarded meetings about volunteering/discussing the strategy with people who are irrelevant to the "strategy" and inclusion meetings where we all just bullshit about our "concerns" which usually amount to "but why do I have to come into the office 3 times a week muh kids dentist appointment??" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48891970) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 7:02 AM Author: Useless stage filthpig TCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48892699) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 7:08 AM Author: mustard jap Alignment is my current most hated buzzword (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48892700) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 1:25 PM Author: poppy antidepressant drug heard it used here more in a month than in a lifetime of employment elsewhere. we even joke that it takes 5 months to align to do 5 weeks of work. what's amazing is that even if you align with a ton of people, some random person will still be pissed off that he wasn't in the loop, even though he's completely irrelevant. then there are people who make whole careers doing 100 lines of RACI, thinking this shit was even remotely useful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48893790) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 2:15 PM Author: at-the-ready fear-inspiring church Are you an Engineer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48893966) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 2:30 PM Author: poppy antidepressant drug no but work heavily with them. even they outsource the bulk to contractors & vendors, chiming in to "align" on shit. fucking LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48894017) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:57 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy jet site WFH’s greatest gift is that I can just skip these meetings entirely now and no one notices (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48893265) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 12:28 PM Author: mustard jap You’re gonna be terminated by an AI for misalignment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#48893579) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:38 PM Author: A Stupid Fucking Retard Drooling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2]#49385711) |