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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Beady-eyed Legend
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Cracking jew telephone
  12/16/25
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Beady-eyed Legend
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Appetizing dun hospital juggernaut
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Cracking jew telephone
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Appetizing dun hospital juggernaut
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Cracking jew telephone
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Appetizing dun hospital juggernaut
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Beady-eyed Legend
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Cracking jew telephone
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Appetizing dun hospital juggernaut
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Cracking jew telephone
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Appetizing dun hospital juggernaut
  12/17/25
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Beady-eyed Legend
  12/17/25
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Cracking jew telephone
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
maroon karate locale
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Cracking jew telephone
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maroon karate locale
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
shimmering slippery address
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Cracking jew telephone
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
doobsian stirring ladyboy hissy fit
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Cracking jew telephone
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Gay Aromatic Resort
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Cracking jew telephone
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Beady-eyed Legend
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Floppy snowy round eye
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
lilac excitant corner party of the first part
  12/17/25
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Cracking jew telephone
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Floppy snowy round eye
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Beady-eyed Legend
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Beady-eyed Legend
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Appetizing dun hospital juggernaut
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Zombie-like gas station cuck
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Legend



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Cracking jew telephone

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Legend

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Appetizing dun hospital juggernaut

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Cracking jew telephone

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Appetizing dun hospital juggernaut

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Cracking jew telephone

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Appetizing dun hospital juggernaut

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Legend

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Cracking jew telephone

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Appetizing dun hospital juggernaut

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Cracking jew telephone

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Appetizing dun hospital juggernaut

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Cracking jew telephone



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: maroon karate locale

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Cracking jew telephone

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: maroon karate locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49516177)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: shimmering slippery address

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Cracking jew telephone

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: doobsian stirring ladyboy hissy fit

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Cracking jew telephone

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Gay Aromatic Resort

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Cracking jew telephone



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Legend



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Floppy snowy round eye

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: lilac excitant corner party of the first part

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Cracking jew telephone



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Floppy snowy round eye



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Legend



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Legend



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Appetizing dun hospital juggernaut

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Zombie-like gas station cuck

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2]#49515738)