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Cons, explain why Gavin SHOULDN’T redistrict California

I don’t get the complaint Cruz and others are making h...
cream spot
  08/26/25
2 wrongs don't make a right. libs lose all moral high ground...
multi-colored boiling water
  08/26/25
So CA should stand down while Texas moves ahead with redistr...
cream spot
  08/26/25
you asked a con for an argument, i presented the con strateg...
multi-colored boiling water
  08/26/25
this isn't 2 wrongs this is 20 dem wrongs to 10 republican ...
Deep snowy tanning salon
  08/26/25
@grok is this true
excitant doctorate stage
  08/26/25
this misses the point so hard it doesnt matter who did it m...
multi-colored boiling water
  08/26/25
so your argument applies equally to Texas and they shouldn&r...
cream spot
  08/26/25
correct. my argument is that a state should redistrict only ...
multi-colored boiling water
  08/26/25
what are some valid reasons
cream spot
  08/26/25
Dunno, but trying to outfox your political opponents is not ...
multi-colored boiling water
  08/26/25
faggot forget about the past! we start taking the high road...
Deep snowy tanning salon
  08/26/25
both sides openly gaming the US political system to get ahea...
multi-colored boiling water
  08/26/25
are you 13? why would you think gerrymandering is 'not a goo...
Deep snowy tanning salon
  08/26/25
Not sure this warrants a serious response. If you don't see ...
multi-colored boiling water
  08/27/25
lol brother nobody cares about this shit anymore. we've been...
floppy hissy fit casino
  08/27/25
people definitely care hence why everyone is maf about polit...
Zippy Digit Ratio Hell
  08/27/25
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multi-colored boiling water
  08/27/25
Agreed we live in Realpolitik world now and have for a while...
multi-colored boiling water
  08/27/25
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Zippy Digit Ratio Hell
  08/27/25
Texas had the idea first. It's unfair to copy them.
excitant doctorate stage
  08/26/25
But they’re NOT copying them, they’re doing MORE...
cream spot
  08/26/25
VERY unfair
excitant doctorate stage
  08/26/25
link to more seats? TX got rid of 5 dems, CA is getting rid...
Sooty Lettuce Plaza
  08/26/25
Absolutely. Weird how no blue state like illinois, massachus...
Hyperactive theater
  08/26/25
Ca is already gerrymandered and unrepresentative of gop vote...
elite outnumbered public bath
  08/26/25
what’s wrong with CA gerrymandering even more though? ...
cream spot
  08/26/25
its not, they dont even have geerrymandering they have some ...
Beady-eyed chad
  08/26/25
that’s not how power grabs work shitskin
cream spot
  08/26/25
Every state should do it to maximum effect and it will work ...
irradiated shrine faggot firefighter
  08/26/25
Every blue state already has
Hyperactive theater
  08/26/25
Then every red state should do it. This is so dumb.
irradiated shrine faggot firefighter
  08/26/25
i like it when the jewish controlled party does it but i don...
exhilarant church
  08/26/25
do what you wanna do, Gavin
know-it-all rusted field
  08/26/25
They are destroying democratic self-governance by killing th...
Cowardly appetizing kitchen
  08/26/25
...
Zippy Digit Ratio Hell
  08/27/25
Everybody knows that gerrymandering is wrong.
Magical nursing home
  08/26/25
This argument would 100% win at SCOTUS if only we can get 15...
excitant doctorate stage
  08/26/25
But really can you explain what this gay back and forth betw...
irradiated shrine faggot firefighter
  08/26/25
Let me introduce you to a concept called kayfabe
Hyperactive theater
  08/27/25
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mischievous bawdyhouse
  08/27/25
...
know-it-all rusted field
  08/27/25
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Zippy Digit Ratio Hell
  08/27/25
1) its fundementally wrong. the state is disenfranchising it...
Zippy Digit Ratio Hell
  08/27/25
cr Dems should stand down and just let red states redistrict...
cream spot
  10/24/25
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''"'''"""'''"''''"
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: cream spot

I don’t get the complaint Cruz and others are making here

https://x.com/gavinnewsom/status/1959811582869041423?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214141)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:37 PM
Author: multi-colored boiling water

2 wrongs don't make a right. libs lose all moral high ground by sinking as low as the cons, and the republic is worse for it.

gavin is clearly trying to ape trump, which comes off super hollow when theyve been screeching at this exact behavior for 10 years

end of empire shit. nonody gives a fuck about the Majesty of the Law anymore. Even if dems say repubs started it, they're just as guilty for continuing. Republic a dying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214156)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:43 PM
Author: cream spot

So CA should stand down while Texas moves ahead with redistricting cuz it will make CA look better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214186)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: multi-colored boiling water

you asked a con for an argument, i presented the con strategy. which is losing honorably

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214241)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Deep snowy tanning salon

this isn't 2 wrongs

this is 20 dem wrongs to 10 republican wrongs trying to make it 11 wrongs (i just made up these numbers, but assume with reasons that dems have done this way more already than cons)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214187)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: excitant doctorate stage

@grok is this true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214189)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:02 PM
Author: multi-colored boiling water

this misses the point so hard

it doesnt matter who did it more or who did it first. wrong is wrong

Am i the only one that gives a fuck about the rules???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214243)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:20 PM
Author: cream spot

so your argument applies equally to Texas and they shouldn’t redistrict, but if they do, CA still should not do it?

you also believe that if California does it first Texas should not follow suit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214290)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: multi-colored boiling water

correct. my argument is that a state should redistrict only when there's valid reason to do so, political vengeance not being one because of course your political opponents will do it back and suddenly there's no Rule of Law anymore

Like i said, country going in a shitter RN cons and libs alike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214383)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: cream spot

what are some valid reasons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214395)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: multi-colored boiling water

Dunno, but trying to outfox your political opponents is not one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214408)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: Deep snowy tanning salon

faggot

forget about the past! we start taking the high road today!

...begins losing streak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214625)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:53 PM
Author: multi-colored boiling water

both sides openly gaming the US political system to get ahead of their opponents is not a good look at all and doesn't bode well for the Rule of Law. soon it won't Mean anything. used to be con's thing at least purpotedly and it's bad that there's no Rule of Law party now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214735)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 8:12 PM
Author: Deep snowy tanning salon

are you 13? why would you think gerrymandering is 'not a good look' and soon it won't bode well for the rule of law?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214779)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: multi-colored boiling water

Not sure this warrants a serious response. If you don't see why pulling the levers of govt to favor your party (redistricting to make permanent R or D districts) is bad, I'm not sure you understand the "America" thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49216975)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: floppy hissy fit casino

lol brother nobody cares about this shit anymore. we've been in full on banana republic mode for at least 10 years now and realistically ever since 2008. it just takes a while to fall down the mountain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49216077)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: Zippy Digit Ratio Hell

people definitely care hence why everyone is maf about politics 24/7

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49216176)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: multi-colored boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49216989)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: multi-colored boiling water

Agreed we live in Realpolitik world now and have for a while, but OP asked for an argument. Just thought I'd put the ol "moral" one out there and see how people react. The derision was entirely expected i assure you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49216987)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Zippy Digit Ratio Hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49216164)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:43 PM
Author: excitant doctorate stage

Texas had the idea first. It's unfair to copy them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214185)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: cream spot

But they’re NOT copying them, they’re doing MORE seats than Texas is doing, which doesn’t seem fair at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214190)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: excitant doctorate stage

VERY unfair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214192)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: Sooty Lettuce Plaza

link to more seats? TX got rid of 5 dems, CA is getting rid of 5 conturds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214447)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:05 PM
Author: Hyperactive theater

Absolutely. Weird how no blue state like illinois, massachusetts, or every other blue state, never thought to gerrymander to increase democrat representation. I guess the only conclusion is that since republican states invented gerrymandering the blue states have no choice but to dabble in this dirty game. Im sure many blue states have a lot of seats to be gained by gerrymandering a la Texas's lead

Congrats Texas! Youve bitten off more than you can chew and now all the blue states are going to follow suit! Cons pwned again!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214254)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: elite outnumbered public bath

Ca is already gerrymandered and unrepresentative of gop voters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214258)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:17 PM
Author: cream spot

what’s wrong with CA gerrymandering even more though? Why should they be limited to matching what Texas and other red states do? What’s the argument against CA and NY going further with it than red states go?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214283)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:59 PM
Author: Beady-eyed chad

its not, they dont even have geerrymandering they have some faggy commision that does shit its supposd to be non partisan, u idiots are now arguing that if a party gets 40% of votes they shld get 40% of house seats, thats a novel proposition, apply that to OK, TX, FL etc too then u retards

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214442)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 6:38 PM
Author: cream spot

that’s not how power grabs work shitskin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214516)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:17 PM
Author: irradiated shrine faggot firefighter

Every state should do it to maximum effect and it will work itself out that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214284)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:16 PM
Author: Hyperactive theater

Every blue state already has

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214623)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:41 PM
Author: irradiated shrine faggot firefighter

Then every red state should do it. This is so dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49215534)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: exhilarant church

i like it when the jewish controlled party does it but i dont like it when the jewish controlled party does it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214445)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: know-it-all rusted field

do what you wanna do, Gavin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214475)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 8:19 PM
Author: Cowardly appetizing kitchen

They are destroying democratic self-governance by killing the rightful state of Jefferson in its cradle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214790)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Zippy Digit Ratio Hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49216166)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 8:20 PM
Author: Magical nursing home

Everybody knows that gerrymandering is wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49214794)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:38 PM
Author: excitant doctorate stage

This argument would 100% win at SCOTUS if only we can get 15-30 of our Beautiful Red States to file a lawsuit asserting it.

But the lib Obama judges are preventing them from even filing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49215520)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:43 PM
Author: irradiated shrine faggot firefighter

But really can you explain what this gay back and forth between Texas and California is about. They are both complaining about/threatening to do something that you can find several examples of both sides already doing in spades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49215538)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:38 AM
Author: Hyperactive theater

Let me introduce you to a concept called kayfabe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49216061)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:39 AM
Author: mischievous bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49216067)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: know-it-all rusted field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49216168)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: Zippy Digit Ratio Hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49216174)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: Zippy Digit Ratio Hell

1) its fundementally wrong. the state is disenfranchising its voters. this is close to the actual fascism libs are always whining about

2) as a practical matter it will only deepen partisan gridlock and thus serves only to exacerbate an existing problem out of spite

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49216171)



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Date: October 24th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: cream spot

cr Dems should stand down and just let red states redistrict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49372456)



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Date: February 4th, 2026 3:21 PM
Author: ''"'''"""'''"''''"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2]#49646731)