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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Aggressive Alcoholic Church
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
scarlet mother
  12/16/25
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Aggressive Alcoholic Church
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Fiercely-loyal coiffed nursing home
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
scarlet mother
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Fiercely-loyal coiffed nursing home
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
scarlet mother
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Fiercely-loyal coiffed nursing home
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Aggressive Alcoholic Church
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
scarlet mother
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Fiercely-loyal coiffed nursing home
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
scarlet mother
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Fiercely-loyal coiffed nursing home
  12/17/25
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Aggressive Alcoholic Church
  12/17/25
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scarlet mother
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Frum sound barrier
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
scarlet mother
  12/16/25
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Frum sound barrier
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Buck-toothed razzmatazz university sweet tailpipe
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
scarlet mother
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Wine school mediation
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
scarlet mother
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Judgmental indigo cuckoldry
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scarlet mother
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Aggressive Alcoholic Church
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Excitant Karate Fanboi
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Smoky trump supporter fat ankles
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scarlet mother
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Excitant Karate Fanboi
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Aggressive Alcoholic Church
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Aggressive Alcoholic Church
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Fiercely-loyal coiffed nursing home
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
twisted circlehead
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Aggressive Alcoholic Church



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: scarlet mother

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Aggressive Alcoholic Church

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal coiffed nursing home

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: scarlet mother

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal coiffed nursing home

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: scarlet mother

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal coiffed nursing home

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Aggressive Alcoholic Church

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: scarlet mother

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal coiffed nursing home

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: scarlet mother

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal coiffed nursing home

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Aggressive Alcoholic Church



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: scarlet mother



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Frum sound barrier

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: scarlet mother

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Frum sound barrier



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Buck-toothed razzmatazz university sweet tailpipe

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: scarlet mother

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Wine school mediation

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: scarlet mother

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Judgmental indigo cuckoldry

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: scarlet mother



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Aggressive Alcoholic Church



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Excitant Karate Fanboi

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Smoky trump supporter fat ankles

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Excitant Karate Fanboi



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Aggressive Alcoholic Church



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal coiffed nursing home

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: twisted circlehead

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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