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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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geriatric domesticated sanctuary
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness
  12/16/25
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geriatric domesticated sanctuary
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Concupiscible Hunting Ground Son Of Senegal
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Concupiscible Hunting Ground Son Of Senegal
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Concupiscible Hunting Ground Son Of Senegal
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
geriatric domesticated sanctuary
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Concupiscible Hunting Ground Son Of Senegal
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Concupiscible Hunting Ground Son Of Senegal
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geriatric domesticated sanctuary
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razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness
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how do they get home?
rose pisswyrm
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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rose pisswyrm
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
spectacular puce national mexican
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Free-loading metal trailer park
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Ebony university
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geriatric domesticated sanctuary
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Lavender Kitty Cat
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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geriatric domesticated sanctuary
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geriatric domesticated sanctuary
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Concupiscible Hunting Ground Son Of Senegal
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
fantasy-prone karate
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: geriatric domesticated sanctuary



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: geriatric domesticated sanctuary

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Concupiscible Hunting Ground Son Of Senegal

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Concupiscible Hunting Ground Son Of Senegal

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Concupiscible Hunting Ground Son Of Senegal

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: geriatric domesticated sanctuary

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Concupiscible Hunting Ground Son Of Senegal

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Concupiscible Hunting Ground Son Of Senegal

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: geriatric domesticated sanctuary



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: rose pisswyrm

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: rose pisswyrm



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: spectacular puce national mexican

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Free-loading metal trailer park

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Ebony university

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: geriatric domesticated sanctuary



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Lavender Kitty Cat

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Turquoise Talented Blood Rage Personal Credit Line

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: razzmatazz medicated stock car messiness



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Concupiscible Hunting Ground Son Of Senegal

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: fantasy-prone karate

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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