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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Rebellious odious pisswyrm
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Deranged Flickering Stage
  12/16/25
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Rebellious odious pisswyrm
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
tantric cracking theatre
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Deranged Flickering Stage
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
tantric cracking theatre
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Deranged Flickering Stage
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
tantric cracking theatre
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Rebellious odious pisswyrm
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Deranged Flickering Stage
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
tantric cracking theatre
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Deranged Flickering Stage
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
tantric cracking theatre
  12/17/25
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Rebellious odious pisswyrm
  12/17/25
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Deranged Flickering Stage
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Laughsome Amber Heaven Ladyboy
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Deranged Flickering Stage
  12/16/25
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Laughsome Amber Heaven Ladyboy
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
soul-stirring unhinged locus national security agency
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Deranged Flickering Stage
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Marvelous insane incel property
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Deranged Flickering Stage
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Beady-eyed dark public bath hunting ground
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Deranged Flickering Stage
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Rebellious odious pisswyrm
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Pea-brained aromatic rehab
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
cream dead prole
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Deranged Flickering Stage
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Pea-brained aromatic rehab
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Rebellious odious pisswyrm
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Rebellious odious pisswyrm
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
tantric cracking theatre
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
alcoholic shrine fortuitous meteor
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Rebellious odious pisswyrm



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Deranged Flickering Stage

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Rebellious odious pisswyrm

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: tantric cracking theatre

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Deranged Flickering Stage

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: tantric cracking theatre

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Deranged Flickering Stage

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: tantric cracking theatre

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Rebellious odious pisswyrm

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Deranged Flickering Stage

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: tantric cracking theatre

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Deranged Flickering Stage

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: tantric cracking theatre

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Rebellious odious pisswyrm



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Deranged Flickering Stage



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Laughsome Amber Heaven Ladyboy

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Deranged Flickering Stage

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Laughsome Amber Heaven Ladyboy



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: soul-stirring unhinged locus national security agency

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Deranged Flickering Stage

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Marvelous insane incel property

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Deranged Flickering Stage

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Beady-eyed dark public bath hunting ground

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Deranged Flickering Stage



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Rebellious odious pisswyrm



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Pea-brained aromatic rehab

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: cream dead prole

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Deranged Flickering Stage



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Pea-brained aromatic rehab



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Rebellious odious pisswyrm



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Rebellious odious pisswyrm



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: tantric cracking theatre

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: alcoholic shrine fortuitous meteor

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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