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any books you read or wish you had read in high school? look...
pungent property
  12/18/25
I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderso...
offensive big-titted den
  12/18/25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712? Reasonable price, ...
swashbuckling set striped hyena
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Contagious pea-brained fanboi
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"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys...
self-centered corn cake piazza
  12/19/25
this is now forever in my search history I want you dead,...
self-centered corn cake piazza
  12/19/25
mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel
Mind-boggling Sanctuary Tank
  12/18/25
A few offhand: -On the Shortness of Life - Seneca -Sta...
slate church building giraffe
  12/18/25
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&a...
self-centered corn cake piazza
  12/19/25
or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of...
milky infuriating useless brakes
  12/19/25
The Illustrated Man Odyssey The International Jew 1984 M...
chest-beating resort fortuitous meteor
  12/18/25
Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters
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i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer readin...
pungent property
  12/18/25
Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Ce...
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they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your...
pungent property
  12/18/25
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The eyes and the impossible sourdough heart of samurai...
kink-friendly floppy really tough guy
  12/18/25
rocket boys is 180
Bipolar black woman
  12/18/25
Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo
kink-friendly floppy really tough guy
  12/18/25
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Bipolar black woman
  12/19/25
weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party...
milky infuriating useless brakes
  12/22/25
CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" thos...
Primrose plaza
  12/18/25
he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that&rsq...
pungent property
  12/18/25
The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)
Yapping brethren stead
  12/18/25
ty for the recs, this is helpful i just asked him what bo...
pungent property
  12/18/25
Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has rea...
sienna school cuckoldry
  12/18/25
seconding count of monte cristo three musketeers is also ...
curious station
  12/18/25
JackTales 🤡😳
ruddy bearded goal in life library
  12/18/25
those are for reading out loud , clown
kink-friendly floppy really tough guy
  12/18/25
The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton https://www.amazon...
Territorial Market
  12/18/25
Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz) We Were Soldiers Once… And...
pale 180 voyeur step-uncle's house
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razzle bistre place of business
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I’m not even sure which author you’re talking ab...
pale 180 voyeur step-uncle's house
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razzle bistre place of business
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he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers &qu...
cowardly azure dilemma background story
  12/21/25
Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000
Bipolar black woman
  12/18/25
No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a bet...
pale 180 voyeur step-uncle's house
  12/18/25
James Bond novels Conan (only read the flemming and howard...
Snowy parlor associate
  12/18/25
The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.
slate church building giraffe
  12/18/25
Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 ...
Snowy parlor associate
  12/18/25
Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new boo...
slate church building giraffe
  12/18/25
1. Goldfinger 2. Moonraker 3. Casino Royale 4. From Russ...
Snowy parlor associate
  12/19/25
tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I th...
slate church building giraffe
  12/21/25
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Bipolar black woman
  12/18/25
Anabasis
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razzle bistre place of business
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Flowers for Algernon
vigorous scourge upon the earth
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razzle bistre place of business
  12/18/25
a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it...
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Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in ...
Fiercely-loyal Menage Genital Piercing
  12/18/25
Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?) Zen and the Art of Motorc...
Plum Hideous Karate
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razzle bistre place of business
  12/18/25
read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class i...
pungent property
  12/18/25
zorba the greek
Bipolar black woman
  12/18/25
...
pale 180 voyeur step-uncle's house
  12/18/25
Several good recs already upthread. Some others: The Thin...
Primrose plaza
  12/18/25
Cr. list I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit ov...
pale 180 voyeur step-uncle's house
  12/18/25
The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorit...
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Primrose plaza
  12/18/25
agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise cau...
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  12/22/25
Watership Down A Day No Pigs Would Die 2nd Where the R...
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twinkling massive point legend
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A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES
self-centered corn cake piazza
  12/19/25
Neon Bible better rec for younger kid
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abridged edgar allen poe short stories
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: pungent property

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? looking for something that would be motivating / tools for life genre

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519424)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: offensive big-titted den

I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderson (Broken Sword, Three Hearts and Three Lions) Fritz Lieber (Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser) etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519444)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: swashbuckling set striped hyena

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712?

Reasonable price, free shipping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519452)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: Contagious pea-brained fanboi



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:35 AM
Author: self-centered corn cake piazza

"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys and crayons, a bubble bath, and lots of love."

-- School Library Journal

"Will undoubtedly be scooped up by families seeking queer representation in board books."

-- Kirkus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49521596)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:42 AM
Author: self-centered corn cake piazza

this is now forever in my search history

I want you dead, Malk Poo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49521719)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Sanctuary Tank

mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519459)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: slate church building giraffe

A few offhand:

-On the Shortness of Life - Seneca

-Starship Troopers (the book is much better and more serious than the movie)

-Bonfire of the Vanities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519460)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:10 AM
Author: self-centered corn cake piazza

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&forum_id=2#35633765

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49521571)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: milky infuriating useless brakes

or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of his vanities

toughens him up a bit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49522050)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: chest-beating resort fortuitous meteor

The Illustrated Man

Odyssey

The International Jew

1984

Meditations

The Myth of Sisyphus

Hamlet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519465)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Frozen Insanely Creepy Community Account New Version

Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519476)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: pungent property

i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer reading assignments



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519493)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:34 PM
Author: Frozen Insanely Creepy Community Account New Version

Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Celestine Prophecy, Lord of the Flies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519513)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: pungent property

they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your other recs, ty!

he just finished peak, so hatchet is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519523)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: Frozen Insanely Creepy Community Account New Version

180

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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: kink-friendly floppy really tough guy

The eyes and the impossible

sourdough

heart of samurai

artemis

rocket boys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519953)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: Bipolar black woman

rocket boys is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49520282)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: kink-friendly floppy really tough guy

Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49521280)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:34 AM
Author: Bipolar black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49521595)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: milky infuriating useless brakes

weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party scene at my rural West Virginia high school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49530601)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: Primrose plaza

CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" those by HS, especially later in HS?

My 7 year old just read--and really enjoyed--Hatchet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519755)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: pungent property

he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that’s more his reading level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519767)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: Yapping brethren stead

The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519483)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: pungent property

ty for the recs, this is helpful

i just asked him what book he’s reading (we’re on a flight) and its war and peace

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519489)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: sienna school cuckoldry

Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has read tons of other Russian lit and has a solid grounding in religion and philosophy.

Count of Monte Cristo is a goat novel that is also accessible and really exciting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519679)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: curious station

seconding count of monte cristo

three musketeers is also great and vastly superior to any adaptation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519686)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: ruddy bearded goal in life library

JackTales 🤡😳

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519490)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: kink-friendly floppy really tough guy

those are for reading out loud , clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519956)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Territorial Market

The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton

https://www.amazon.com/Boy-Pink-Hair-Perez-Hilton/dp/0451234200

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519492)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: pale 180 voyeur step-uncle's house

Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz)

We Were Soldiers Once… And Young (Moore & Galloway)

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage (Lansing)

The Way of Men (Donovan)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519502)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: razzle bistre place of business



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: pale 180 voyeur step-uncle's house

I’m not even sure which author you’re talking about, though I’m 99.99% sure that it’s not Moore or Galloway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519724)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:41 PM
Author: razzle bistre place of business



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: cowardly azure dilemma background story

he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers "androphile," a term he uses to describe romance and sex between masculine men

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Donovan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49528627)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: Bipolar black woman

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519898)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: pale 180 voyeur step-uncle's house

No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a better idea of what it means to be a man and to experience the thrill, the triumph, of surviving impossible odds. Leadership, loyalty, discipline. And then they get home and are like, fuck it, sign me up for WWI’s trenches

My middle son needed a bit of coaching on perseverance, so we read this together and then did a HARD AS FUCK mountain bike camping trip in western NC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49520739)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: Snowy parlor associate

James Bond novels

Conan (only read the flemming and howard originals though)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519505)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: slate church building giraffe

The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519535)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:51 PM
Author: Snowy parlor associate

Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 or so) in a summer. all were 180. I tried reading the non-flemming but its not the same. They don't write novels like that anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519587)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: slate church building giraffe

Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new books to read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519744)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Snowy parlor associate

1. Goldfinger

2. Moonraker

3. Casino Royale

4. From Russia With Love

5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

the order changes based on mood but these five are in a tier above.

the rest are all solid. for example, Diamonds are Forever is my least favorite and that is still leagues better than any modern espionage novel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49522101)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:44 PM
Author: slate church building giraffe

tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49528612)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Bipolar black woman

cr

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: painfully honest spot toilet seat

Anabasis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519542)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: razzle bistre place of business



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: vigorous scourge upon the earth

Flowers for Algernon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519548)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: razzle bistre place of business



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: electric halford location

a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it. great series for boys who like knights, politics, and violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519602)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Menage Genital Piercing

Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in the series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519689)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: Plum Hideous Karate

Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?)

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Dune

anything recent by Lawrence Millman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519705)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: razzle bistre place of business



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: pungent property

read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class in hs. book was so so but class was 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519770)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Bipolar black woman

zorba the greek



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519710)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: pale 180 voyeur step-uncle's house



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: Primrose plaza

Several good recs already upthread. Some others:

The Things They Carried

Mark Twain--starting with Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn

1984

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (and throw in The Hobbit)

Infinite Jest

Moby Dick

Blood Meridian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49519751)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:30 PM
Author: pale 180 voyeur step-uncle's house

Cr. list

I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit overexposed to the hopelessly feminized librarian space for a time and was looked down upon as kind of trite. But it’s 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49520745)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Laughsome Maroon Meetinghouse Athletic Conference

The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorite. You shouldn't look down on librarian recs. This is all they do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49520815)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: Primrose plaza



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: cowardly azure dilemma background story

agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise caution with the second and third sentences just given that the values may not be stoic masculine warrior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49530736)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Vibrant know-it-all public bath legal warrant

Watership Down

A Day No Pigs Would Die

2nd Where the Red Fern Grows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49520246)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:33 PM
Author: diverse incel bbw



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: twinkling massive point legend

Starship Troopers

Enders Game

Johnny Tremain

Childhoods End

Rama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2Ã#49520778)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:16 AM
Author: self-centered corn cake piazza

A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES

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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:11 AM
Author: painfully honest spot toilet seat

Neon Bible better rec for younger kid

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