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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
ocher frisky senate pistol
  11/09/25
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Bat Shit Crazy Scourge Upon The Earth
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
ocher frisky senate pistol
  11/09/25
much more than that
Burgundy Mind-boggling Knife
  11/09/25
anal rape?
crystalline space lettuce
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Vibrant chad
  11/09/25
...
cerise out-of-control office
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Bat Shit Crazy Scourge Upon The Earth
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Galvanic judgmental people who are hurt
  11/09/25
...
violent metal kitchen old irish cottage
  11/09/25
why who is he?
ocher frisky senate pistol
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
Walnut marvelous plaza messiness
  11/09/25
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Bat Shit Crazy Scourge Upon The Earth
  11/09/25
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Disrespectful Massive Affirmative Action
  11/09/25
cr he blows
Cordovan internal respiration
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big point
  11/09/25
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big point
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
thriller weed whacker
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
Swollen Mauve Corner
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
mahogany selfie
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
ocher frisky senate pistol
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
mahogany selfie
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
Contagious Cumskin
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
carnelian know-it-all codepig piazza
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
odious orchestra pit
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Hairraiser emerald half-breed
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Swollen Mauve Corner
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
Contagious Cumskin
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Cordovan internal respiration
  11/09/25
*destroying
ocher frisky senate pistol
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Burgundy Mind-boggling Knife
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Cordovan internal respiration
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Burgundy Mind-boggling Knife
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
Adventurous resort indirect expression
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
ocher frisky senate pistol
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
bronze stock car hunting ground
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
ocher frisky senate pistol
  11/09/25
Jews maf
Contagious Cumskin
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
mahogany selfie
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
ocher frisky senate pistol
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
mahogany selfie
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Cordovan internal respiration
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
odious orchestra pit
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
bronze stock car hunting ground
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
rose comical range philosopher-king
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
ocher frisky senate pistol
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
rose comical range philosopher-king
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
odious orchestra pit
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
ocher frisky senate pistol
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
ocher frisky senate pistol
  11/09/25
lol
rose comical range philosopher-king
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
naked nighttime ladyboy
  11/09/25
...
Contagious Cumskin
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
Cerebral Cream State Black Woman
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Swollen Mauve Corner
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
Cordovan internal respiration
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Hairraiser emerald half-breed
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
bronze stock car hunting ground
  11/09/25
...
cerise out-of-control office
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
ocher frisky senate pistol
  11/10/25
...
Contagious Cumskin
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Puce Sound Barrier
  11/10/25
lol
spruce nursing home feces
  11/10/25
Lmao
Adventurous resort indirect expression
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: ocher frisky senate pistol

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Scourge Upon The Earth

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: ocher frisky senate pistol

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Burgundy Mind-boggling Knife

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: crystalline space lettuce

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Vibrant chad

But also some negative consequences

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: cerise out-of-control office



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Scourge Upon The Earth

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Galvanic judgmental people who are hurt

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: violent metal kitchen old irish cottage



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: ocher frisky senate pistol

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Walnut marvelous plaza messiness

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Scourge Upon The Earth



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Disrespectful Massive Affirmative Action



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Cordovan internal respiration

cr he blows

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: big point



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: thriller weed whacker

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Swollen Mauve Corner

indians, cleveland

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: mahogany selfie

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: ocher frisky senate pistol

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: mahogany selfie

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Contagious Cumskin

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: carnelian know-it-all codepig piazza

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: odious orchestra pit

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Hairraiser emerald half-breed

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Swollen Mauve Corner

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Contagious Cumskin

import the third world, become the third world

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Cordovan internal respiration

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: ocher frisky senate pistol

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Burgundy Mind-boggling Knife

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Cordovan internal respiration

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Burgundy Mind-boggling Knife

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Adventurous resort indirect expression

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: ocher frisky senate pistol

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: bronze stock car hunting ground

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: ocher frisky senate pistol

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Contagious Cumskin

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: mahogany selfie

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: ocher frisky senate pistol

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: mahogany selfie

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Cordovan internal respiration

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: odious orchestra pit

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: bronze stock car hunting ground

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: rose comical range philosopher-king

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: ocher frisky senate pistol

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: rose comical range philosopher-king

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: odious orchestra pit

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: ocher frisky senate pistol

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: ocher frisky senate pistol

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: rose comical range philosopher-king

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: naked nighttime ladyboy

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Contagious Cumskin



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Cerebral Cream State Black Woman

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Swollen Mauve Corner

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Cordovan internal respiration

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Hairraiser emerald half-breed

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: bronze stock car hunting ground

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: cerise out-of-control office



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: ocher frisky senate pistol

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: Contagious Cumskin



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Puce Sound Barrier

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: spruce nursing home feces

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Adventurous resort indirect expression

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416774)