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There is an island in the Indian Ocean considered French soil

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68292604 Lying 70km...
gin and eschatonic
  09/03/25
"From all political shades in Mayotte comes the same cr...
butt cheeks
  09/03/25
from the article: In fact, strictly speaking, the droit du...
gin and eschatonic
  09/03/25
Oh. But that's only true if the political classes decide tha...
butt cheeks
  09/03/25
These little outposts like this, the Canaries, and the Cayma...
Solomon Pacifico, Attorney-at-Law
  09/03/25


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Date: September 3rd, 2025 11:02 AM
Author: gin and eschatonic

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68292604

Lying 70km (43.5 miles) from one of the poorest countries in Africa - the Comoros islands - Mayotte has a "small boat" problem that makes the UK's, over the Channel from France, seem puny by comparison.

Hundreds of people arrive every week in boats from the Comoros, in addition to whom there are now increasing numbers of asylum seekers from the Great Lakes region of Central Africa.

In the island's hospitals more than 10,000 babies are being born every year - the majority to mothers from the Comoros. Mayotte's overall population is estimated at 300,000 - but only half of them bear French passports.

Since mid-January "citizens' committees" have set up roadblocks around the island, demanding a crackdown on immigration and the crime they say comes with it. From all political shades in Mayotte comes the same cry: end the droit du sol.

"If not, we will be perpetually the prisoners of our geography," says Estelle Youssouffa, a Mayotte MP from the independent LIOT bloc in the National Assembly.

"We will end up welcoming all the misery of the Comoros and of Africa - all so that people in Paris can parade their grand principles."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769373&forum_id=2Ã#49233284)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: butt cheeks (✅🍑)

"From all political shades in Mayotte comes the same cry: end the droit du sol."

I don't understand this as I believe France already abolished U.S.-style unrestricted birthright citizenship decades ago, I think it only applies if the parents are legit permanent residents (kind of what the correct reading of Wong Kim Ark would be)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769373&forum_id=2Ã#49233303)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 11:09 AM
Author: gin and eschatonic

from the article:

In fact, strictly speaking, the droit du sol is not an automatic right in France, as it is for example in the US where a birth certificate is enough to get a passport. A child born in France to foreign parents needs to apply for citizenship in his or her teens, and then prove continuous presence.

However, the point still stands. Birth on the territory opens the way to membership of the nation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769373&forum_id=2Ã#49233310)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: butt cheeks (✅🍑)

Oh. But that's only true if the political classes decide that being born there means something and means you can't be kicked out, even if the law says no such thing. Which is probably exactly what is happening I suppose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769373&forum_id=2Ã#49233318)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 11:08 AM
Author: Solomon Pacifico, Attorney-at-Law

These little outposts like this, the Canaries, and the Caymans were all extremely important resupply outposts during the Age of Sail

Even today they're pretty useful as locales to gain access to EEZs or whatever the fishing/oil/mining rights zones are called in the regions around them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769373&forum_id=2Ã#49233308)