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We have to have a large welfare state. Get over it.

Globalization and new tech has made a lot of workers obsolet...
topaz macaca
  08/12/12
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Comical lay
  08/12/12
Thank you, at least someone in this dump is up to speed.
Charismatic box office
  08/12/12
Neoliberal alert, neoliberal alert
chestnut degenerate blood rage
  08/12/12
what steps are we going to take to reduce the birth rates of...
provocative ungodly personal credit line marketing idea
  08/12/12
Dems try to make abortion freely available and that actually...
topaz macaca
  08/12/12
*have made
Cerebral jade athletic conference scourge upon the earth
  08/17/12
killself
topaz macaca
  08/17/12
no u. this is a prestigious law board. u clearly don't belon...
Cerebral jade athletic conference scourge upon the earth
  08/17/12
no, seriously, killself
topaz macaca
  08/17/12
sorry, i don't engage in conversation with uneducated peasan...
Cerebral jade athletic conference scourge upon the earth
  08/17/12
i went to hyp and hys aspie. not everyone proofreads posts o...
topaz macaca
  08/17/12
superior anglo culture
nyuug
  02/18/26
BUT WE CANT AFFORD IT SOCIAL SECURITY WILL BANKRUPT US JUS...
stimulating cobalt turdskin dopamine
  08/12/12
Holy shit, this is credited. It is a phenomenally simple id...
vigorous keepsake machete goal in life
  08/12/12
many don't get neoliberalism.
chestnut degenerate blood rage
  08/12/12
Everyone grasps it, dummy. It's just empirically false.
curious cerise french chef
  08/12/12
Why do we need to maintain them? Just let them go unemplo...
Onyx station windowlicker
  08/12/12
without them, who will buy things?
chestnut degenerate blood rage
  08/12/12
Current economic models based on supply and demand will be c...
Onyx station windowlicker
  08/12/12
this demand view of the economy is pretty stupid. these peop...
provocative ungodly personal credit line marketing idea
  08/12/12
...
Frisky Meetinghouse Toaster
  08/12/12
mfcr
Onyx station windowlicker
  08/12/12
Foreigners. We need to return to being a net export country....
bespoke dysfunction hospital
  08/22/12
where are we on this?
nyuug
  02/18/26
(Marie Antoinette)
Irradiated therapy
  08/12/12
Not everyone is as morally repulsive as you. I believe in th...
topaz macaca
  08/12/12
Do you fully believe that a largely bedridden 85 year-old, p...
Onyx station windowlicker
  08/12/12
I don't believe in functionally useless end of life care, bu...
topaz macaca
  08/12/12
Link to poor people reproducing less.
Olive rehab candlestick maker
  08/12/12
One of the main reasons that nigger girls in the projects sp...
Onyx station windowlicker
  08/12/12
What about poor countries where there is no welfare but poor...
Olive rehab candlestick maker
  08/12/12
I agree, bro, which is why of all government-funded healthca...
Onyx station windowlicker
  08/12/12
poor people in america are able to get enough nutrition to s...
provocative ungodly personal credit line marketing idea
  08/12/12
>in a world in which they received no support from their ...
Olive rehab candlestick maker
  08/12/12
you assume we need a middle class at all.
concupiscible dilemma pozpig
  08/12/12
LET THEM EAT CAKE!
chestnut degenerate blood rage
  08/12/12
s..o e..d...g........y
stimulating cobalt turdskin dopamine
  08/12/12
This is a silly fucking thing to say. The alternative is peo...
floppy harsh range hominid
  08/12/12
not only basic necessities but also frivolities + the appear...
concupiscible dilemma pozpig
  08/12/12
This is correct. Mobility need not really exist, but the ap...
floppy harsh range hominid
  08/12/12
So the conservative responses in this thread are 1. Let them...
topaz macaca
  08/12/12
REMINDER: All XO conservatards are poors arguing for their o...
Big Juggernaut Abode
  08/12/12
I fall into this trap sometimes. It's a pretty credited sui...
Olive rehab candlestick maker
  08/12/12
I might be a "poor" by absolute monetary standards...
curious cerise french chef
  08/12/12
but way too pussy to say this in political advertisements
very tactful garrison corn cake
  08/12/12
The real response is that OP is just factually incorrect. Pe...
curious cerise french chef
  08/12/12
VENDOR! my party will have 15 of your meatpies, for I hear t...
floppy harsh range hominid
  08/12/12
lol poor people, just lol
Gold azn
  08/12/12
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  08/13/12
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topaz macaca
  08/17/12
Solid thread
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Date: August 12th, 2012 9:57 PM
Author: topaz macaca

Globalization and new tech has made a lot of workers obsolete. We need a welfare state to maintain the middle class, and that's all there is to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324206)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 9:57 PM
Author: Comical lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324211)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 9:57 PM
Author: Charismatic box office

Thank you, at least someone in this dump is up to speed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324212)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:00 PM
Author: chestnut degenerate blood rage

Neoliberal alert, neoliberal alert

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324239)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:02 PM
Author: provocative ungodly personal credit line marketing idea

what steps are we going to take to reduce the birth rates of these unnecessary people? we shouldn't support them only to perpetuate this shitty situation into the next generation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324251)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:05 PM
Author: topaz macaca

Dems try to make abortion freely available and that actually does a lot of work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324292)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:14 AM
Author: Cerebral jade athletic conference scourge upon the earth

*have made

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21358746)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:15 AM
Author: topaz macaca

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21358747)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:22 AM
Author: Cerebral jade athletic conference scourge upon the earth

no u. this is a prestigious law board. u clearly don't belong here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21358769)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:31 AM
Author: topaz macaca

no, seriously, killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21358799)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:41 AM
Author: Cerebral jade athletic conference scourge upon the earth

sorry, i don't engage in conversation with uneducated peasants so this will be my last post to you. do yourself a favor and at least get a GED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21358840)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:41 AM
Author: topaz macaca

i went to hyp and hys aspie. not everyone proofreads posts on xo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21358844)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: nyuug

superior anglo culture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#49679303)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 9:59 PM
Author: stimulating cobalt turdskin dopamine

BUT WE CANT AFFORD IT

SOCIAL SECURITY WILL BANKRUPT US

JUST LIKE ANY FAMILY, AMERICA NEEDZ TO SIT DOWN AT ARE KITCHEN TABLE AND CREATE A BALANCED BUDGET

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324229)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:00 PM
Author: vigorous keepsake machete goal in life

Holy shit, this is credited. It is a phenomenally simple idea but so many can't grasp it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324232)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:01 PM
Author: chestnut degenerate blood rage

many don't get neoliberalism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324242)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: curious cerise french chef

Everyone grasps it, dummy. It's just empirically false.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324333)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:01 PM
Author: Onyx station windowlicker

Why do we need to maintain them?

Just let them go unemployed and die off.

Just do cream of the crop crossing into a new stage of human evolution, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324248)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:02 PM
Author: chestnut degenerate blood rage

without them, who will buy things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324256)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: Onyx station windowlicker

Current economic models based on supply and demand will be completely obsolete in 50 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324265)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: provocative ungodly personal credit line marketing idea

this demand view of the economy is pretty stupid. these people are unproductive. giving them our money so they can buy things from us does not put us in a better situation. keynesian policy is intended to be a short-term policy, not a long-term one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324318)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: Frisky Meetinghouse Toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324364)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:15 PM
Author: Onyx station windowlicker

mfcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324387)



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Date: August 22nd, 2012 12:00 PM
Author: bespoke dysfunction hospital

Foreigners. We need to return to being a net export country. And "things" will increasing turn into services rather than manufactured goods unless we can dismantle the NLRB and end the 'welfare state is a given' premise. We can no longer rely on self-sustaining domestic demand for American goods and services.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21395465)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: nyuug

where are we on this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#49679306)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: Irradiated therapy

(Marie Antoinette)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324269)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: topaz macaca

Not everyone is as morally repulsive as you. I believe in the singularity but I also believe in caring for other people. Go fuck yourself. That said, social stability would collapse without the welfare state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324272)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: Onyx station windowlicker

Do you fully believe that a largely bedridden 85 year-old, pumped full of 10 different pharmaceuticals and hooked up to an oxygen tank, spending her days reading Home & Garden and watching The Price is Right and WE BUY GOLD commercials is as inherently valuable as you?

To society? To humanity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324302)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: topaz macaca

I don't believe in functionally useless end of life care, but info believe that providing everyone with decent medical care is a great moral good. Whether or not someone is as "valuable" as I am doesn't enter into it for me, I care about other people for their own sake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324319)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:04 PM
Author: Olive rehab candlestick maker

Link to poor people reproducing less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324283)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: Onyx station windowlicker

One of the main reasons that nigger girls in the projects spawn so much is that it directly bumps their welfare check. They literally dropout of HS, get knocked up on purpose, and live in the projects.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324313)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: Olive rehab candlestick maker

What about poor countries where there is no welfare but poors still manage to pump out babby after babby? This is not just a US or rich world phenomenon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324327)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:10 PM
Author: Onyx station windowlicker

I agree, bro, which is why of all government-funded healthcare goods, widespread birth control is the one I would be happy to subsidize.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324336)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:11 PM
Author: provocative ungodly personal credit line marketing idea

poor people in america are able to get enough nutrition to still be fertile. in a world in which they received no support from their betters, this would not be the case.

controlling the hungry masses might be difficult though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324348)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: Olive rehab candlestick maker

>in a world in which they received no support from their betters, this would not be the case.

Lol no. Look at any underdeveloped country. They still reproduce at an alarming rate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324372)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: concupiscible dilemma pozpig

you assume we need a middle class at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324276)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:05 PM
Author: chestnut degenerate blood rage

LET THEM EAT CAKE!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324295)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: stimulating cobalt turdskin dopamine

s..o

e..d...g........y

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324304)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: floppy harsh range hominid

This is a silly fucking thing to say. The alternative is people kill you and take your shit. The last thing any rich person wants is an even mildly educated underclass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324314)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:10 PM
Author: concupiscible dilemma pozpig

not only basic necessities but also frivolities + the appearance of social mobility. name one country that has had a violent revolution with those things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324344)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: floppy harsh range hominid

This is correct. Mobility need not really exist, but the appearance of it is a necessity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324368)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: topaz macaca

So the conservative responses in this thread are 1. Let them all die and 2. we don't need a middle class. Sounds about right, lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324303)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: Big Juggernaut Abode

REMINDER: All XO conservatards are poors arguing for their own liquidation.

That's the real kicker. By their own logic none of them deserve to live.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324320)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:10 PM
Author: Olive rehab candlestick maker

I fall into this trap sometimes. It's a pretty credited suicide method.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324335)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:12 PM
Author: curious cerise french chef

I might be a "poor" by absolute monetary standards, but I don't take any welfare, and I have a great life.

Gas yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324362)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: very tactful garrison corn cake

but way too pussy to say this in political advertisements

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324325)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: curious cerise french chef

The real response is that OP is just factually incorrect. People can still make a living just fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324370)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:23 PM
Author: floppy harsh range hominid

VENDOR! my party will have 15 of your meatpies, for I hear they are the finest in the land. It seems I must also have some of your ale to wash this down!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324433)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: Gold azn

lol poor people, just lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21324323)



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Date: August 13th, 2012 10:54 AM
Author: topaz macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21327162)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:11 AM
Author: topaz macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21358736)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:41 AM
Author: Grizzly karate mad-dog skullcap

Solid thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21358838)



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Date: August 22nd, 2012 11:53 AM
Author: topaz macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2Ã#21395425)