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Question about European feudalism.

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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
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Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

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just walk outside bro

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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:38 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: May 13th, 2026 7:20 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: May 19th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: May 21st, 2026 5:25 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: May 25th, 2026 6:16 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: May 26th, 2026 8:51 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: May 28th, 2026 5:55 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: June 3rd, 2026 5:16 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: July 7th, 2026 11:56 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: July 8th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: July 9th, 2026 10:50 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: July 12th, 2026 8:27 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:04 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:18 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Theater

Nigga WTF do you know about this? Why are you so fucking obsessed with whites?

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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: Walnut space

cumskins dont make trillions of threads about asians though for sure

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Date: July 13th, 2026 5:50 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: July 19th, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: Walnut space



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Angry toilet seat trailer park

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Gold indecent half-breed kitchen

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Angry toilet seat trailer park

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Gold indecent half-breed kitchen

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Angry toilet seat trailer park

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Flesh kitty knife

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Submissive Ebony Field Crotch



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: mildly autistic chrome site



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Ivory Racy Theatre

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: gay school cafeteria

cq

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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Nofapping native patrolman

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Flesh kitty knife

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM
Author: Adventurous slate corn cake



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Violent balding potus center

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Pale french senate regret

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Confused Razzmatazz Immigrant Fanboi

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: purple galvanic skinny woman coldplay fan

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: Drab box office selfie

it was a nanny state.

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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: purple galvanic skinny woman coldplay fan

Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM
Author: Confused Razzmatazz Immigrant Fanboi

actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts

foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots

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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: Boyish house-broken really tough guy

13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails

you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids

https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html

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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: Boyish house-broken really tough guy

"Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time."

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