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Date: February 6th, 2021 9:39 PM Author: Charismatic church building antidepressant drug Oh, and by the way, drug use is actually good
Meet Carl Hart: parent, Columbia professor – and heroin user Andrew Anthony In a startling new book, Drug Use for Grown-Ups, the Ivy League professor argues that the dangers of recreational drug use have been wildly overstated Andrew Anthony Sat 6 Feb 2021 12.00 EST
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“I am now entering my fifth year as a regular heroin user,” writes Carl Hart in his revelatory new book, Drug Use for Grown-Ups. Fifty-four-year-old Hart is the Ziff professor of psychology at Columbia University. Regular heroin use and high academic achievement are not two pursuits that we expect to see in the same life story. At least not openly. Heroin is by popular consensus the worst of drugs, the one that leaves users hopelessly strung-out and slavishly addicted. How can you be a regular user and hold down a prestigious Ivy League professorship? And why would you admit to it?
As Hart continues: “I do not have a drug-use problem. Never have. Each day, I meet my parental, personal and professional responsibilities. I pay my taxes, serve as a volunteer in my community on a regular basis and contribute to the global community as an informed and engaged citizen. I am better for my drug use.”
It’s hard to recall a more unapologetic defence of hard drug consumption. What’s particularly powerful about Hart’s testament is that it’s not written by a beat poet or avant-garde artist, but a highly regarded research scientist whose area of expertise is neuropsychopharmacology – the study of the neurological and behavioural effects of drugs on people.
Get Society Weekly: our newsletter for public service professionals Read more There are few areas of modern life that are shrouded in quite so much misinformation and hypocrisy as recreational drug use. There seems to be a never-ending criminal justice battle to thwart ever more sophisticated and ruthless drug dealers, while at the same time the appetite for recreational drugs increases across all sectors of society.
But beneath the social and moral debate is a vital scientific question: are recreational drugs harmful in themselves? If skunk, MDMA, cocaine and heroin are dangerous to the individual and ruinous to the community at large, then the case for banning them is strengthened. But what if they aren’t as harmful as the authorities maintain and what if the damage done to communities should be attributed to poverty and criminalisation of drugs, rather than the psychoactive effects?
American police officer arresting a black man In his book, Hart examines the racism that underpins drug legislation in the US, which had led to a system that disproportionately punishes black drug users. Photograph: Alamy Stock Photo Hart cuts to the chase in his prologue: “Here’s the bottom line: over my more than 25-year career, I have discovered that most drug-use scenarios cause little or no harm and that some reasonable drug-use scenarios are actually beneficial for human health and functioning.”
On a Zoom call to him in his home in New York, I ask Hart what the likely effects of his admission of heroin use are.
“I can live more honestly,” he replies. “I can look in the mirror. My children can have an example of what courage looks like in real time, not in history. It’s possible I’ll get some flak from my university, my employers. Such is life. Anything worth having in my mind, particularly something important, there is risk attached to it. When the dust has cleared, my public record is there in the book and the evidence will exonerate me.”
Medicine is conservative and errs on the side of caution… but the cost is immense Behind him in his office is a photograph of Malcolm X. Among many other things, Hart’s book is an examination of the racism and scaremongering that have long underpinned drug legislation in the US, leading to a system that disproportionately punishes black drug users. While most crack users in the 1990s were white, 90% of those sentenced under harsh anti-crack laws were black.
African Americans remain far more likely to be incarcerated for drug crimes than white Americans. And they are four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than their white counterparts. In the UK, while the inequality is not so extreme, racial bias in sentencing still exists. Last week, it was reported that black drug dealers are 1.4 times more likely to be handed immediate custodial sentences than white people convicted of similar crimes.
Hart displays the passion of the convert in attacking misconceptions of African American drug use, because, as he confesses in the book, he once “wholeheartedly believed that drugs destroyed certain black communities”.
It was visiting white friends in pleasant neighbourhoods who were engaging in the same drug use he believed led to community dysfunction that made him realise it wasn’t the drugs but the context in which they were taken that harmed people. All the same, he says it took him a long time to acknowledge to himself what his scientific research and personal experience were telling him. So why did he resist for many years the logic of his own findings on drugs such as heroin?
“It wasn’t that I was opposed to it,” he explains. “It was that I was incentivised to find a certain thing. And when you are incentivised to find a certain thing, you are blinded. I needed to keep my lab running. I needed to support these salaries. I didn’t have to defend my position as strongly as I do now – I always have to be thinking about the other position. Whereas as long as you toe the party line you don’t have to think about that. You have all of this support and machinery built up to prop up that perspective.”
He is highly critical of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (Nida), which according to Hart funds 90% of the world’s research on recreational drugs, and in particular of its director, Nora Volkow. As he writes:
“Many scientists who study drugs, including some at Nida, believe that she routinely overstates the negative impact that recreational drug use has on the brain and that she essentially ignores any beneficial effects drug use may have. But these scientists don’t dare share this perspective with her for fear of repercussions that might negatively impact their ability to obtain grant funding, among other professional perks, from her institute.”
Cannabis ‘There is no evidence to say that cannabis causes schizophrenia or psychotic disorder,’ says Hart. Photograph: Getty Images/iStockphoto He repeats the same charge in our call, noting that it’s a question of emphasis rather than empiricism. If you only focus on the harm that drugs cause, he says, then you will come away with a distorted picture of drug use. He compares the situation with driving a car. If the only discussion about cars was devoted entirely to car accidents, then the general impression about cars would be that they are dangerous and to be avoided. However, most people drive cars in a manner that gets them quickly and satisfyingly from A to B.
This is essentially Hart’s perspective on drugs. Used in an informed and responsible manner, they fulfil a purpose with only the smallest risks. When not promoting his book, he says, he likes to be able to have an opioid whenever he wants. And at parties and receptions, “it’s nice to have a stimulant like an amphetamine or cocaine”. Most of all, he likes taking drugs with his wife: “It’s great to take MDMA with her and reconnect.”
Another example he uses is alcohol. As well as alcoholism, a great deal of illness and premature death is attributed to alcohol use and abuse, but most people who sip a glass of wine with their evening meal don’t see alcohol in those terms.
In any case, even the harm that drugs do, he believes, has been wildly overstated. I note that the widespread medical advice is that cocaine, even in small doses, can cause heart damage and sometimes cardiac arrest. Does he think that it’s true?
He doesn’t feel the need or desire to take more heroin and never feels in any real danger “False,” he declares. “We give thousands of doses in our laboratories here at Columbia every year – snorted cocaine, smoked cocaine – and we have never seen anything like a heart attack. I think that in general, medicine is conservative and errs on the side of caution. But the thing they have not taken into consideration is that there is a cost to erring on the side of caution and that cost is immense.”
What about hallucinogens and strong cannabis such as skunk – can they trigger psychosis?
“I know that large doses of cannabis given to inexperienced people can trigger anxiety and paranoia that looks like psychosis but there is no evidence to say that cannabis causes schizophrenia or psychotic disorder.”
In the book, Hart wonders why people go on about heroin withdrawal when, despite his own use and occasional breaks, he has never experienced anything like the horror stories they describe. So he decides to up the strength and frequency of his intake to put withdrawal to the test. When he stops, he goes through an extremely uncomfortable night, which he says he’d be in no rush to repeat. But he doesn’t feel the need or desire to take more heroin and never feels in any real danger (he notes that, by contrast, alcohol withdrawal is potentially lethal).
So I ask him about reports of far more extreme withdrawal experiences and cite the example of Miles Davis, who said he went through seven or eight days of hell in attempt to kick heroin.
“I don’t know what kind of quality Miles had,” he says. “You know, Miles had a lot of free time because he put out these great albums and he got a lot of money at certain times. Maybe he was so irresponsible in his heroin use that he needed to take that long. Maybe, but that’s an extreme example. It would be like talking about someone who gets in multiple car accidents. Most of us don’t do that kind of thing.”
If drug authorities such as Nida focus too much on harm, Hart gives the impression of neglecting or downplaying it. He takes issue with the phrase “harm reduction”, common in drug treatment, because it emphasises negative outcomes. His suggestion for an alternative is “health and happiness”.
The pursuit of happiness, enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, is what really galvanises Hart. For him, drugs are a civil liberty issue. Just as he believes, as a self-professed gun hobbyist, in the right to bear arms, he also believes in the right to take drugs. Neither, he contends, is harmful if done responsibly.
The problem, of course, in both cases is irresponsible use and what to do about it.
“Obviously, we’ll have an age requirement,” he says, “and we may have to have a competency requirement for these drugs, like a driver’s licence. You may have to take a test or an exam in order to get the licence for permission to purchase individual drugs such as heroin, MDMA, cocaine.”
I’m not sure how that would play out in the real world, but there’s a great deal to respect and admire in Hart’s outspoken stand. He is taking on an orthodoxy, one that involves a multibillion industry of law enforcement and incarceration and that can be a lonely place to be.
He tells me before we say goodbye that he is moving to Switzerland, which he says has the most progressive drug policy. “The thing I really like is that they take care of their people. I just want to be left alone in a quiet, boring place. That’s the appeal.”
After this book, I doubt that he’ll be left alone for long.
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Date: February 6th, 2021 9:45 PM Author: cobalt rough-skinned indian lodge Lol so he also disproves global warming!!!
“It was that I was incentivised to find a certain thing. And when you are incentivised to find a certain thing, you are blinded. I needed to keep my lab running. I needed to support these salaries. I didn’t have to defend my position as strongly as I do now – I always have to be thinking about the other position. Whereas as long as you toe the party line you don’t have to think about that. You have all of this support and machinery built up to prop up that perspective.”
This is exactly what professors I have dealt with from universities like Columbia and university of Minnesota have said to me on the topic of global warming |
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Date: February 6th, 2021 10:13 PM Author: Charismatic church building antidepressant drug At least he can call out the phenomenon, even if it is just to justify his drug habit. Honestly, I’m not even sure if he has a serious habit; this could just be an attention grabbing ploy to sell books. |
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Date: February 6th, 2021 10:08 PM Author: Charismatic church building antidepressant drug How long do most people last before it starts running away from them? This guy has only been doing it for 4 years, and probably has plenty of money saved up. I feel like most guys on the streets. Have been doing it for a decade plus and didn’t have much money to start with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4759650&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#41899382) |
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Date: February 7th, 2021 3:37 AM Author: Lime spectacular juggernaut It’s only an addiction if you can’t afford it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4759650&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#41900521) |
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Date: February 7th, 2021 8:29 PM Author: onyx greedy persian locus Truth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4759650&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#41904675) |
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Date: February 7th, 2021 5:01 AM Author: Misunderstood big people who are hurt background story This article is complete shit.
It doesn’t delve into the science of heroin usage at all. It doesn’t really go far into this guy’a use of it. If he’s highly productive, how does he find the time to use heroin? How much does he use. Etc.
It just focuses on...race. Which is a factor in the drug war but not the only one.
Complete shiitlib writing. |
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Date: February 7th, 2021 10:44 AM Author: Aromatic Burgundy Ratface It would be kind of a weird omission anyway, but the guy is supposed to be a MFE on that very topic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4759650&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#41901099) |
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Date: February 7th, 2021 11:55 AM Author: Obsidian Corner So apparently this guy woke up one day as a *fifty* year-old man and decided to hop on the H train.
That's one hell of a midlife crisis. Most doods get a convertible or a mistress or something. He decides to take up a chill fratty heroin habit. |
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Date: February 7th, 2021 8:35 PM Author: onyx greedy persian locus Most people can't afford to spend $100 per day on heroin, nor do they have as steady of a supply as they need in order to make it to work every day. But this dude probably makes $230k per year and has tenure, so he's in one of the very, very few positions where it's feasible to be a productive addict in the USA.
In Canada and the UK, they've done pilot programs where addicts who have repeatedly failed on methadone receive heroin or dilaudid two to three times per day and these people can hold jobs. |
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Date: February 7th, 2021 8:43 PM Author: Crimson cheese-eating center This guy may also just happen to have an unusual genetic ability to resist addiction. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4759650&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#41904836) |
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Date: February 7th, 2021 8:37 PM Author: painfully honest theater stage In his book, Hart examines the racism that underpins drug legislation in the US, which had led to a system that disproportionately punishes black drug users.
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African Americans remain far more likely to be incarcerated for drug crimes than white Americans. And they are four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than their white counterparts.
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Date: February 7th, 2021 8:44 PM Author: emerald casino ape he's proof. being punished with tenure at a TTT like Columbia instead of working as a garbage man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4759650&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#41904849) |
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Date: February 7th, 2021 8:48 PM Author: painfully honest theater stage i wonder if there could possibly be any other explanation for the high proportion of the black population being convicted of crimes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4759650&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#41904885) |
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Date: August 4th, 2026 6:01 PM Author: bloomington (🦬) Update: he now does podcasts while clearly fucked up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTt52-1zn38 |
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Date: August 4th, 2026 6:23 PM Author: Ricky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTt52-1zn38&t=927s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4759650&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50045445) |
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Date: August 4th, 2026 6:24 PM Author: artificial intelligence Someone needs to arrest him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4759650&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50045450) |
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Date: August 4th, 2026 7:07 PM Author: bloomington (🦬) Cr, it would be for his own good. If he doesn't hit rock bottom and sober up, a fatal OD is just a matter of time.
I suspect most addicts "know" that they're overdoing it and that they have to slow down or quit at some point. That's how I felt about my drinking.
This guy has staked his professional success on the idea that having a heroin addiction is totally fine. I suspect he doesn't possess the idea that he has to put the brakes on this if he wants to live. |
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Date: August 4th, 2026 6:27 PM Author: Shturm Z Drug laws are for the benefit of the pecuniary interest of corrupt landlords and have more to do with optimizing value extraction from labor and forcing proles to internalize moral, emotional, and spiritual excess "cost" produced by a barbaric economic system than they do with the true interests of public health, a field that's moved onto the Scandinavian model on the matter long ago Judeo-American capitalism is the Great Satan and the destroyer of all that is good natural or sacred ime |
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Date: August 4th, 2026 7:11 PM Author: How to derive aut from ism Never saw this thread before!
So he was a "high-functioning" heroin user in the thick of the pandemic, when all he needed to do was keep one Zoom office hour per week and have a TA do all of his grading? |
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Date: August 4th, 2026 7:26 PM Author: bloomington (🦬) Yes. Five years ago, he was five years into 'responsibly' using heroin.
So now he's a decade into his addiction and he's slurring during big media appearances.
What a shocker. |
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Date: August 4th, 2026 7:28 PM Author: The Penis Did he say he was shooting it? If you have enough money anyone can maintain a snort heroin addiction "functionally". Much easier than being a functional alcohol addict. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4759650&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50045609) |
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Date: August 4th, 2026 7:55 PM Author: bloomington (🦬) > Did he say he was shooting it?
I don't know and I don't care a whole lot about the the details of this junkie's intake
> If you have enough money anyone can maintain a snort heroin addiction "functionally".
Are there heroin addicts that stay snort-only for a decade? Don't they all start slamming at some point? And with basically all "heroin" being fent now, is it actually "safe" to be snort-only? My understanding is that the strength can vary quite a bit.
> Much easier than being a functional alcohol addict.
Wildly disagree |