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Cons, did you ever figure out why Mamdani's grocery stores are a bad idea?

what's the consensus?
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
because socialism is an inefficient failure. it only "w...
Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption
  07/27/26
NYC is almost out of rich people
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
not really... but this is he dumbest and least-efficient way...
Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption
  07/27/26
Oh it's just not "efficient" now, lol
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
socialism is always a bad idea for any market good for a var...
Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption
  07/27/26
(Richard Posner)
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
What about all the socialism we give to rich people? DId...
...,....,,........
  07/27/26
it doesn't work just fine giving people shit for free incen...
sealclubber
  07/27/26
agreed. we should also cut tax breaks for corps. let them pa...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
is this supposed to be a gotcha? if so, moronic fail
sealclubber
  07/28/26
Can you make the case for them? Outline the "steelman&q...
Richard Ames
  07/27/26
Mamdani will get more votes
nude litigator
  07/27/26
The funny thing is that I think a lot of this shit doesn't e...
Richard Ames
  07/27/26
More cities will elect mayors like him
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
Food will be cheaper
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
how?
Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption
  07/27/26
30%
nude litigator
  07/27/26
...
Nazca Redlines
  07/27/26
Zero profit margins for the retailer
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
I actually agree with what you are saying. I imagine you wou...
Richard Ames
  07/27/26
Not at all. If you like your grocery store you can keep shop...
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
Sure, if the government run stores remain simply a "Pub...
Richard Ames
  07/27/26
Choice is pretty fucking limited at Whole Foods too. I assum...
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
Do you really think so?
Richard Ames
  07/27/26
NSAM has schizophrenia. Please be patient.
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
They don't even sell Doritos
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
cr
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  07/27/26
Profit margins for grocery stores are around 2%. These store...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
Police and fire departments operate at a loss, no?
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
Police coverage is not an excludable rivalrous good. Selling...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
I'll take that as a yes
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
the private companies selling them the food also will have z...
frank rizzo
  07/27/26
Your 20 cent bananas will now be 14 cents (and cost the city...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
this is false
frank rizzo
  07/27/26
Problem: greedy corporations exist that make profit from sel...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
This is America. Food is a luxury good
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
the stores will always be low on food selling at a loss i...
N904PD
  07/27/26
So the problem is too many people will shop there and all th...
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
Governments shouldn't try to do stuff that tons of private b...
And what ur doing right now? It's illegal.
  07/27/26
This isnt for poors they already get food stamps. The point ...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
How can they go out of business if Mamdani's stores have no ...
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
Even a 5% drop in revenue will drive some groceries out of b...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
loooool! the people who have the funds to shop at Whole F...
...,....,,........
  07/27/26
Profit margins are 1-2%. How is that "being held by yhe...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
Because a Gov't owned grocery store doesn't need to produce ...
...,....,,........
  07/27/26
The profit is 1%-2% of the cost you drooling imbecile. Excep...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
you are dumb even for a black. like really really dumb.
frank rizzo
  07/28/26
grocery stores make terrible margins and make $$$ off volumn...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
sounds like shitlib logic at its finest!
Trust If Aryan
  07/27/26
to be fur, we shouldnt allow a single digit amount of compan...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
fair enough
Trust If Aryan
  07/27/26
There are thousands of retailers selling food in NYC. Are yo...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
I assume he was referencing the fact that Sysco and US Foods...
Richard Ames
  07/27/26
Maybe for restaurant food.
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
That plus https://i.insider.com/57ebdc8edd08954b368b47d7?wid...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
Oh wow so 10 companies own multiple brands? Wow its a real m...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
Majority of a major need, like food, should not come from a ...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
Lol. Link to the percentages you just made up? Bevauae all y...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
wow how much of the soda drink market is controlled by pepsi...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/28/26
"A major need" *cites Pepsi* Also, great sta...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/28/26
Date: July 27th, 2026 3:32 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.....
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
thousands.... a handful.... basically the same if you around...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
So General Mills and Kraft are "retailers" to you ...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
I love semantic arguments
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
You just brought up a completely unrelated post to what we w...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
link to me using that term, retard?
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/28/26
I used it, and you and NSAM replied sarcastically to the obv...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/28/26
And I made it clear, for a second time, I was never referrin...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/28/26
No that is not at all what you were doing. Lol you are a fuc...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/28/26
ty for showing yourself to be a legit retard. Those are not ...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
Google says Kroger's profit margins are 22-23%
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
Kroger's net profit margin is approximately 0.71% over the t...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
You think Mamdanimart will have the same overhead expenses a...
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
Their overhead will be even higher because it will all be un...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
https://www.ufcw.org/actions/campaign/kroger-union/
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
"What is the point of kroger being union if the pay isn...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
you sound like a real mfe on this topic. no wonder cons are ...
boltzmann penis
  07/27/26
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  07/27/26
Anyone?
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
i already did u fag
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
Cons is this true?
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
cons, like libs, are fags
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
Cons?
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
feels like a worthwhile experiment. worst case, some people...
Darnell
  07/27/26
Here's how it will work. Once a month, our five city-run gro...
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
why wont rich ppl crowd out poor
VoteRepublican
  07/27/26
The food will be dollar store tier. Total dogshit. Cons are ...
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
At least mom Donnie is going to be able to do what he promis...
MISO HORNY
  07/27/26
Russia literally gave up on communism because Boris Yeltsin ...
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  07/27/26
Now they say grocery shelves are empty again in Russia. Mayb...
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
Huh? Russia had no food, they switched to capalism and h...
........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,
  07/27/26
So as long as Mamdani isn't totalitarian his stores will hav...
Jared Baumeister
  07/27/26
...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
So is "bread lines" the consensus response from co...
Jared Baumeister
  07/28/26
Still not convinced these stores are ever going to open. Is...
Bronus Swagner
  07/28/26
I'd be more skeptical if they planned to do it faster than t...
Jared Baumeister
  07/28/26
It takes Whole Foods like six months to open a Daily Shop, a...
Bronus Swagner
  07/28/26
Cons, do we at least agree that bread lines will form?
Jared Baumeister
  07/28/26
cons?
Jared Baumeister
  07/28/26
Also really lame that NYC is not actually going to run the s...
Bronus Swagner
  07/28/26


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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:41 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

what's the consensus?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50026989)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:46 PM
Author: Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption ( )

because socialism is an inefficient failure. it only "works" until you run out of rich people to rob to pay for it. we have EBT in NYC- cash grants to the poor to buy groceries work just fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027011)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:47 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

NYC is almost out of rich people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027015)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:50 PM
Author: Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption ( )

not really... but this is he dumbest and least-efficient way to get subsidized food to the poor. it's Soviet-style waste at its finest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027023)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:50 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Oh it's just not "efficient" now, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027028)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:53 PM
Author: Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption ( )

socialism is always a bad idea for any market good for a variety of reasons. but you asked why this grocery scam is bad idea and the waste/stupidity behind it is the worst

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027040)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:54 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

(Richard Posner)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027049)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 4:31 PM
Author: ...,....,,........

What about all the socialism we give to rich people?

DId we somehow "run out of money" to keep giving rich people tax cuts in 2017 & 2025?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027615)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 6:46 PM
Author: sealclubber

it doesn't work just fine

giving people shit for free incentivizes them to be worthless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027938)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 6:50 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

agreed. we should also cut tax breaks for corps. let them pay their normal amounts. we can't have lazy corps

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027949)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 12:36 PM
Author: sealclubber

is this supposed to be a gotcha? if so, moronic fail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50029679)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:53 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Can you make the case for them? Outline the "steelman" case for them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027041)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:55 PM
Author: nude litigator

Mamdani will get more votes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027052)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:58 PM
Author: Richard Ames

The funny thing is that I think a lot of this shit doesn't even make a difference w.r.t. votes. Voting is basically just a population headcount now and a growing % of the population of NYC is incapable of understanding conditionals or second order thinking. Maybe it's necessary for Mamdani to hold off any potential adversaries to his left from within the DSA.

My bigger sense is that this probably just makes DSA activist types feel like they're "doing something" so they can avoid self-reflection and any requisite steps towards improving their own stead (of which step #1 would be leaving NYC for somewhere else and learning an actual skill).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027066)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:59 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

More cities will elect mayors like him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027072)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:55 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Food will be cheaper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027053)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:56 PM
Author: Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption ( )

how?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027059)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:56 PM
Author: nude litigator

30%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027061)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:30 PM
Author: Nazca Redlines



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:57 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Zero profit margins for the retailer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027064)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:59 PM
Author: Richard Ames

I actually agree with what you are saying. I imagine you would agree that such a pathway will lead to meaningfully reduced choice for these consumers. Surely everyone could eat free if the food is just rice and beans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027070)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:00 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Not at all. If you like your grocery store you can keep shopping there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027074)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:14 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Sure, if the government run stores remain simply a "Public Option." But even at such stores, choice will be limited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027121)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:26 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Choice is pretty fucking limited at Whole Foods too. I assume you're aware of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027208)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Do you really think so?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027349)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:11 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


NSAM has schizophrenia. Please be patient.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027382)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 6:02 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

They don't even sell Doritos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027857)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 4:31 PM
Author: ...,....,,........

cr

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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:02 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Profit margins for grocery stores are around 2%. These stores will operate at a loss. To the extent they dont, it is only because they are exempt from tqxes and use ciry owned property....but the government is losing tax and rental revenue so it is still a loss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027079)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:05 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Police and fire departments operate at a loss, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027086)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:06 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Police coverage is not an excludable rivalrous good. Selling excludable rivalrous (finite) goods at a loss leads to shortages via waste and underproduction. This is why non-excludable non-rivalrous goods are called "public goods"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027088)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:09 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

I'll take that as a yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027095)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:58 PM
Author: frank rizzo

the private companies selling them the food also will have zero profit margins?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027333)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:49 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Your 20 cent bananas will now be 14 cents (and cost the city budget 30 cents). Checkmate capitalists

https://x.com/feelsdesperate/status/2081905821592510885

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50028800)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:57 PM
Author: frank rizzo

this is false

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50027330)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:04 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Problem: greedy corporations exist that make profit from selling food, which is a Human Right. Nobody should profit from a Human Right

Solution: sell at a loss using public subsidy, putting grocery stores out of business and bringing more of the economy under the wings of the public sector.



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:10 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

This is America. Food is a luxury good

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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:24 PM
Author: N904PD

the stores will always be low on food

selling at a loss is obviously a terrible strategy, so when they run low on stuff they will have to wait a week to restock to slow down how much they lose

shrinkage will be an issue; obviously the post and daily news will be chomping at the bit to see how they deal with it

staffing will also be lol. presumptively they will be paying people 30 dollars and hour or whatever and not be able to really fire anyone, although again if they don't have much food to sell it's not like they need to do much "work"

either that or it will be a YUGE success its 50/50

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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:27 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

So the problem is too many people will shop there and all the food will get consumed

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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:48 PM
Author: And what ur doing right now? It's illegal.

Governments shouldn't try to do stuff that tons of private businesses already do. If poors are too poor to buy food, we should give em some as we already do.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:49 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


This isnt for poors they already get food stamps. The point is to drive the geeedy corporations that profit from a Human Right out of business.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

How can they go out of business if Mamdani's stores have no food to sell? Surely some folks will opt to shop at Whole Foods instead of waiting in line for bread

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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Even a 5% drop in revenue will drive some groceries out of busines given the razor thin profit margins.

It's a sliding scale. The more money they sink into the effort, the more business they'll take from the stores, and the more they'll further the goal of driving the groceries out of business. The less money they sink into it, the quicker the shelves will go bare and the less effective theyll be at the ideological goal. But the losses will be more scandalous and less sustainable. Worth watching how they navigate this.



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Date: July 27th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: ...,....,,........

loooool!

the people who have the funds to shop at Whole Funds won't give a shit about a government grocery store.

The purpose of a public option is to give people a lower cost option instead being held by the balls by GC.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:01 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Profit margins are 1-2%. How is that "being held by yhe balls" genius?

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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:39 PM
Author: ...,....,,........

Because a Gov't owned grocery store doesn't need to produce a profit.

Thus, food will be cheaper.

Did I make that clear enough you dumb faggot?

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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:40 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


The profit is 1%-2% of the cost you drooling imbecile. Except at Whole Foods and similar luxury stores where it is a whopping 4.5%. Wow really grabbing you by the balls! Big savings!!

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Date: July 28th, 2026 4:54 PM
Author: frank rizzo

you are dumb even for a black. like really really dumb.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

grocery stores make terrible margins and make $$$ off volumn.

we need a low margin business replaced by a... govt one?

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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Trust If Aryan

sounds like shitlib logic at its finest!

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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:14 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

to be fur, we shouldnt allow a single digit amount of companies control our food, so "cons" do the actual fucking there. but ya keep complaining about some retarded shitlib answer to a problem cons encourage.

remove jews. fuck everything else

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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:23 PM
Author: Trust If Aryan

fair enough

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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:32 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


There are thousands of retailers selling food in NYC. Are you retarded you weird trannfyfucker?

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Date: July 27th, 2026 4:09 PM
Author: Richard Ames

I assume he was referencing the fact that Sysco and US Foods have an inordinate amount of power over the food supply.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 4:11 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Maybe for restaurant food.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:48 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

That plus https://i.insider.com/57ebdc8edd08954b368b47d7?width=700

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Date: July 27th, 2026 6:14 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Oh wow so 10 companies own multiple brands? Wow its a real monopoly *blank stare*

I dont get it. What is a "proper" amount of companies to own those brands? How many brands should a company be banned from owning more than?

And what does this have to do with retailers (what Mamdani is taking on)

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Date: July 27th, 2026 6:41 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

Majority of a major need, like food, should not come from a handful of companies. Its not about the # of brands u legit retard.

Those few companies will often control 80%+ of a market, often just a few (2-4) of them controlling 80%+.

A more competitive market will have say the top few controlling under 50% of the market.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Lol. Link to the percentages you just made up? Bevauae all your chart shows is a bunch of brands.

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Date: July 28th, 2026 9:06 AM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

wow how much of the soda drink market is controlled by pepsi and coke? how much of the cereal market is controlled by General mills and kellogs, etc etc. Killyourself ur freak

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Date: July 28th, 2026 9:07 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


"A major need"

*cites Pepsi*

Also, great statistics, you really proved that you cant eat unless you get 80% from 3 companies or whatever

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Date: July 27th, 2026 6:42 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Date: July 27th, 2026 3:32 PM

Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,

There are thousands of retailers selling food in NYC. Are you retarded you weird trannfyfucker?

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Date: July 27th, 2026 6:43 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

thousands.... a handful.... basically the same if you around up to the nearest thousands!

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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


So General Mills and Kraft are "retailers" to you and your schizo buddy, genius?)

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Date: July 27th, 2026 9:22 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

I love semantic arguments

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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:52 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


You just brought up a completely unrelated post to what we were talkign about you weird psycho. No semantic argument.

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Date: July 28th, 2026 9:04 AM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

link to me using that term, retard?

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Date: July 28th, 2026 9:10 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


I used it, and you and NSAM replied sarcastically to the obvious teuth that there are thousands of retailers in NYC. Are you retarded?

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Date: July 28th, 2026 10:09 AM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

And I made it clear, for a second time, I was never referring to retailers. jfc u are too retarded bye

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Date: July 28th, 2026 10:16 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


No that is not at all what you were doing. Lol you are a fucking moron.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:48 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

ty for showing yourself to be a legit retard. Those are not suppliers.

https://i.insider.com/57ebdc8edd08954b368b47d7?width=700

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Date: July 27th, 2026 6:59 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Google says Kroger's profit margins are 22-23%

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Date: July 27th, 2026 7:01 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

Kroger's net profit margin is approximately 0.71% over the trailing twelve months.

retard. its almost as if u need the costs of running a business to run a business. Just like costco charges a roughly 10-15% margin on its good, but breaks even on its stores and makes all of its profit off the membership fee.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 7:15 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

You think Mamdanimart will have the same overhead expenses as Kroger now. You probably think they'll invest like Kroger too.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 7:53 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Their overhead will be even higher because it will all be union labor paid prevailing wage, with 50% of contractors being minority or women owned enterprises, and everything ethically sourced and fair trade.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 9:23 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

https://www.ufcw.org/actions/campaign/kroger-union/

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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:51 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


"What is the point of kroger being union if the pay isnt any better than any other grocery company?"

https://www.reddit.com/r/kroger/comments/1octiib/what_is_the_point_of_kroger_being_union_if_the/

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Date: July 27th, 2026 9:41 PM
Author: boltzmann penis

you sound like a real mfe on this topic. no wonder cons are scared to answer you itt.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:49 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,




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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Anyone?

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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:24 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

i already did u fag

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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:28 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Cons is this true?

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Date: July 27th, 2026 6:41 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

cons, like libs, are fags

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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:27 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Cons?

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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:46 PM
Author: Darnell

feels like a worthwhile experiment. worst case, some people who usually buy overpriced stuff at a bodega get decent prices for a while

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Date: July 27th, 2026 6:06 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Here's how it will work. Once a month, our five city-run grocery stores will set prices for this core set of goods at 30% below typical retail prices. No exceptions, no gimmicks. The savings will last for the entire month. That means no weekly fluctuations or sticker shock at the checkout line—not for our seniors living on fixed incomes, nor for the parents who rely on a regular supply of apple slices to keep toddler tantrums at bay.

https://x.com/i/status/2081748569992937730

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Date: July 27th, 2026 7:01 PM
Author: VoteRepublican (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?)

why wont rich ppl crowd out poor

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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:34 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

The food will be dollar store tier. Total dogshit. Cons are struggling to come to terms with this

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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: MISO HORNY

At least mom Donnie is going to be able to do what he promised at least in part

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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:23 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


Russia literally gave up on communism because Boris Yeltsin came to America and saw the grocery stores under capitalism and realized communism didn't work.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:07 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Now they say grocery shelves are empty again in Russia. Maybe communism is better in the long run

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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:18 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


Huh?

Russia had no food, they switched to capalism and had food, they then drifted back to a totalitarian regime and have no food again.

Makes you think! Government must be the answer. Just look at how great the North Koreans are doing.

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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

So as long as Mamdani isn't totalitarian his stores will have food on the shelves?

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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:52 PM
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Date: July 28th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

So is "bread lines" the consensus response from cons?

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Date: July 28th, 2026 4:13 PM
Author: Bronus Swagner

Still not convinced these stores are ever going to open. Is the plan still to have the first one open by late 2027? And MFH in 2029?

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Date: July 28th, 2026 4:20 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

I'd be more skeptical if they planned to do it faster than that

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Date: July 28th, 2026 4:40 PM
Author: Bronus Swagner

It takes Whole Foods like six months to open a Daily Shop, and these are about the same size. Why didn't they just find abandoned stores to renovate instead of building new stores?

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Date: July 28th, 2026 4:19 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

Cons, do we at least agree that bread lines will form?

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Date: July 28th, 2026 4:40 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister

cons?

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Date: July 28th, 2026 4:47 PM
Author: Bronus Swagner

Also really lame that NYC is not actually going to run the stores, they're hiring a private-sector contractor. Why? I thought the government was better at everything?

https://edc.nyc/nyc-groceries-operators-rfp

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