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Gun to head: 1994 demographics in perpetuity, or 1994 tech in perpetuity?
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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:59 AM Author: bateful twisted hospital gunner I like to flatter myself that Im pretty racist, but I think I would freeze tech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883169) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:38 AM Author: charismatic theater stage You get recognition for a good hypo and having TCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883385) |
Date: May 13th, 2026 9:00 AM Author: indecent striped hyena how is this even a question? 1994 demographics
I'm Liberal btw. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:03 AM Author: bateful twisted hospital gunner I feel pretty hopeless about cell phones
the people who are populating town square is kind of a problem, but I dont really think we will even have town squares as the internet continues its march. 2007 iphone was some kind of Pearl Harbor, but we cannot even name it yet. Its truly destroying everything that matters. Real dark shit. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:08 AM Author: indecent striped hyena No, the decline of religion (which was happening and inevitable way before phones) is 100x more impactful. "Screens" are just a red herring people fret about so they can pretend it's a less fundamental problem than the nearly 2000 year foundation of Western society evaporating over the course of the last century
They're not good for kids but that's not some unsolvable problem. People want to blame "screens" for all of societies ills now that boomers (the previous scapegoat we all used to deflect from the real issue) are too old to blame. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:42 AM Author: charismatic theater stage It's not "screens", it's what technology enables humans to do and be. And woe be to he who thinks "screens" have introduced even a fraction of the horror that continued technological advancement will bring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883270) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:05 AM Author: rusted impressive queen of the night Tech and it is not remotely close. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883187) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:40 AM Author: charismatic theater stage This. Anyone who understands human nature will say this. A million times this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883262) |
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Date: May 15th, 2026 9:07 AM Author: bateful twisted hospital gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49885574) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:10 AM Author: Mischievous heaven White (Non-Hispanic): Dropped from roughly 74-75% in the mid-1990s to approximately 57% in 2025. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883208) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:30 AM Author: ruby knife demographics, not even a question (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883224) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:35 AM Author: blue giraffe death wish pull the trigger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883246) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:36 AM Author: French mental disorder idk I kinda liked 1998 tech better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883248) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:14 PM Author: electric ladyboy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883506) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:45 AM Author: Turquoise Affirmative Action Step-uncle's House If you freeze at 1994 tech, you might also get 1994 demographics.
No tech book, so no jeets. No gps apps, so fewer illegals making their way across the border. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:39 AM Author: cowardly plum whorehouse demographics everything else you can fix, but the post-1965 demographic disaster can never ever be fixed |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:43 AM Author: charismatic theater stage In your view, what's the difference between how tech issues would be resolved versus how a demographic crisis would be resolved? I think it's the opposite (demographics are easier to fix than technology), so definitely interested in your rationale
To be clear: I don't think we have the stomach to fix demographic problems. But I see how they could theoretically be fixed. I don't see even a single avenue for fixing technology though |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:49 AM Author: cowardly plum whorehouse I would be fine if the world remained in 1994 forever on both dimensions. But tech issues can in an emergency be resolved by breaking things and pulling some plugs. A demographic crisis can only be resolved by very, very grisly means involving huge loss of life or other human misery, civil war, that kind of thing. I'd rather in a crisis pull some plugs rather than kill a bunch of people (or have them kill me). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883398) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:58 AM Author: charismatic theater stage I think we're way past the point that pulling the plug or smashing a box with a hammer can stop anything
Tech has become the military industrial complex of our time enabling never before seen capabilities to track, disrupt, and interdict "threats," as well as control, manipulate, and enslave entire populations. It's distributed. It runs our economy. It gives people tremendous comfort--the one commodity humans seem to be incapable of sacrificing--while keeping them firmly under the thumb of real authority
That only goes away when the owner of the power transitions out of human hands, and I don't see why it would get any better for us at that point |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:03 AM Author: cowardly plum whorehouse Yes. This is true. I don't know if it will happen but it is highly plausible. The thing that worries me as much (less drastic outcome, but higher probability) is a total massacre of white collar employment especially the young fresh out of college who will never have a chance, in the same way that china trade totally massacred blue collar employment. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:25 AM Author: charismatic theater stage I think this is definitely coming within our expected lifetimes. The only bright spot is that it might trigger the demographic war. Though at that point it may be more likely to be a war of national origin, national allegiance, and ethnicity than a race war
And in all honesty, I think the modern world shows that shared values and beliefs, and the willingness to live within those values and beliefs, is a million times more important than race. The motherfuckers at the top are selling out their own people, in the classic sense, at rates never before seen |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:57 AM Author: indecent striped hyena technology is ultimately inevitable. there is something hardwired into human DNA to always be doing new shit for better or worse and have to deal with it as we move along. the instinct that resulted in the slow evolution from hunter gatherers clubbing our bros in the skull into civilization is a core part of our species
demographics are a direct byproduct of our immigration policy. maybe in the long run it's destiny that we become a species of grey skinned cyborgs, but that's a very long way off and quite different from "the US is now Upper Mexico" |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:00 AM Author: charismatic theater stage Seems that we are in agreement in a big picture sense for this hypo (without quibbling about what should or should not be included in "demographics") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883416) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:53 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle hall need a precise date to be able to consider whether i would be eligible to buy the PlayStation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883402) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:19 AM Author: peach sandwich library 1994 tech, easy. And keeping the 1994 tech would also sustain the 1994 demographics for a host of reasons, some of which I will lay out here:
1.) Less need for serf labor in smartphone-enabled "jobs." No Door Dash, no Uber. If you want delivery, you need to hire someone competent (easier when the average IQ is still actually 100 and not everyone is vaping weed all day). If you want a taxi, you need someone who knows the roads and isn't competing with every person who owns a car to pick you up. BUT OH MY CONVENIENCE!! Too much convenience is obviously bad.
2.) More general competence required across the economy. Less abundance of information means you need people who are more adept at dealing with uncertainty and using judgment to make decisions. This requires a higher average IQ across industries. It also selects more for MEN.
3.) Less general malaise because of anhedonia and media addiction. More general friction in life. More texture. More of a need to simply be on the move to get things done and not sit at a desk all day. All of this keeps people happier and also sustains industries that add to the texture of life (newsstands, for instance.)
4.) Less financialization of industry and less of an economy purely driven by transactions. Much more vibrancy to the economy overall. Less outrageous wealth inequality, stronger (actual) middle class that isn't just paper pushing middle management fraud types.
5.) Stories on TV / movies can still have heavy procedural elements instead of just looking at a cell phone screen for an answer. Go watch an episode of Law & Order from 1994, it is amazing.
6.) People being themselves and not just adopting personalities they see online all day on social media on their faggot phones.
7.) Virtually zero trannies because of lack of social contagion and women being insane from Instagram.
8.) Still a feeling of real exploration in the world.
9.) Real and distinct sub-cultures that aren't just farmed for views online. Things develop more organically.
10.) People would be thinner and healthier overall.
Most of this acts as a barrier to importing 90 IQ third worlders. It is the ultimate win-win. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:49 AM Author: indecent striped hyena Illegal immigration was basically an unbroken linear march starting in earnest in the 80s. It didn't crest until the mid-2000s pre-ITE (and rose again during Biden), but it has nothing, absolutely fucking nothing, to do with "screens" and everything to do with zero punishment for employers employing illegals. Once farmers realized they have an infinite pool of sub-market wages to draw from it was over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883457) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:20 PM Author: charismatic theater stage Yeah. Those goddamn farmers and their unbridled powers circa the 1980s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883550) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:24 PM Author: indecent striped hyena People immigrate illegally because they can find work to do and carve out a life. That was happening in earnest long before "smartphones" and we could've easily put a stop to it by punishing the people employing them. We chose not to because that would mean the price of avocados and lawncare and hotel staff goes up 35%. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883570) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:27 PM Author: charismatic theater stage Farmers by the late 20th century are the straw men for much more powerful, much more corporate interests (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883586) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:29 PM Author: indecent striped hyena Farmers exert an insane amount of political influence relative to how many of them there are. There's a reason why we carve out endless porkbarrel exceptions specifically for farmers decade after decade.
Farmers are why we had the Bracero program, and they used illegal immigration to replace it.
Obviously it wasn't just them, but they were by far the single largest driver and more importantly the *first* driver of illegal immigration, setting a precedent for other business owners to not fear employing illegals.
And all of this was set in motion long before anyone had a PDA or whatever. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:49 PM Author: charismatic theater stage The Bracero program underscores why farmers aren't the real drivers of the problem. They were totally cool with seasonal farm labor coming in when needed and, more importantly, going back when not. It ended not because farmers demanded illegal alien labor, but because organized labor protested against it
The question to ask is why did government largely turn a blind eye to illegals for so long. I don't think it was the farmers. Besides, if the farmers had the clout you say, they wouldn't have ended the Bracero program or would have replaced it with something codified into law like every other farm-friendly program
EDIT: You know, in talking through this, it probably was the communist plot to destabilize America through "education" and demographic splintering that drove this. I don't know if "globalism" was an organized vision at that point that pulled the communist strings or not. If it was, then it gets back to my initial thought that it was a corporate interest-driven thing. If it wasn't, then it was probably a "we're enemies and need to destroy you" thing glommed on to our fucking leaders always being eager to sell the rest of us out type thing |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:25 PM Author: blue giraffe death wish #2 and #3 are so true but so hard to communicate
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Date: May 13th, 2026 2:04 PM Author: peach sandwich library I think a lot of younger people (under 30 especially) just didn't know the old world where competence was closer to the norm. Every industry required some baseline level of competence and judgment because information was less abundant. Locking tech in would turn this competence into a sort of moat from a population standpoint.
What's more, imperfect information is where the fun lies. Uncertainty is good and adds to a sense of mystery and adventure. People obviously seek this feeling out constantly on their phones and it has blown out their brains.
I see the other poaster talking about illegal immigration and farm labor. And he isn't wrong. But with tech locked into 1994 levels, the immigrant labor might actually just stay in the realm of "but who will pick the lettuce?" The broader economy would still sustain a huge number of quality jobs for people who have to work with imperfect info to make decisions and organize people and assets around various endeavors because software would not exist to do this for them.
And guess what, those quality jobs require a certain baseline level of competence which means a certain baseline of IQ. Which means you don't import millions of mystery meat people. |
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Date: May 15th, 2026 9:47 AM Author: Soul-stirring range "(actual) middle class that isn't just paper pushing middle management fraud types." - 1990s was the peak for paper pushing middle management fraud types. a lot of paper was being pushed around.
"People being themselves and not just adopting personalities they see online all day on social media on their faggot phones." - 90s MTV pop culture was alive and well. everyone dressed like shit between grunge wannabes and girls wearing frumpy sweaters and mom jeans because they watched my so called life or some shit. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 1:37 PM Author: Comical elite idiot deer antler well 1994 was still SNES, so can we creep that date up a couple years? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883802) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 2:34 PM Author: 180 piazza round eye 1994 demographics will solve all other problems. Without locking that in, the forces of globalization and falling white birth rates will doom us and we will become brown AND not have Google maps or wikipedia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883869) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 3:29 PM Author: peach sandwich library Doesn't Europe have basically 80% - 90% white people? Look at what they're doing to themselves. It's downstream of modern tech, IMO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883934) |
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Date: May 15th, 2026 10:37 AM Author: 180 piazza round eye I don't care about Euros, they are very poor and have been self immolating for literally 100+ years. It's a sickness in their brains that proliferated after WWI, not due to tech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49885790) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 3:30 PM Author: smoky stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883935) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 7:46 PM Author: Talented bisexual generalized bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49884345) |
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Date: May 15th, 2026 10:37 AM Author: puce national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49885794) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 3:32 PM Author: Tan corner stock car Hilarious that anyone would care about "demographics" compared to the death spiral that 21st century tech has put us on as a society (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883943) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 3:37 PM Author: smoky stain the death spiral is largely due to demographics. 1994 gets us closer to the demographics we had before Israel sank its teeth into our politicians via AIPAC. However, the 90s were when that shit *really* ramped up, so keeping 94 tech might be tcr if we don't get to address the real problem. at least it'd push off the inevitable for another generation or two. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883956) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 3:52 PM Author: charismatic theater stage I'm not smart enough to be sure: are you voting for demographics or tech in your response? I think you're smart enough to get the right answer, so I want to be sure I'm not misunderstanding (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49883972) |
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Date: May 15th, 2026 10:45 AM Author: smoky stain tech, but it's a close one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49885811) |
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Date: May 15th, 2026 10:28 AM Author: amethyst galvanic foreskin People are constantly complaining about how tired and exhausted they are. Everyone seems depressed or angry all the time. Kids are withdrawn and stay indoors instead of going out into the world with their friends. I'm sure demographics play some role here, but I think screens and social media bears more of the blame. We'd be better off without it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49885768) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 1:36 PM Author: The Dismal Tide (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#50063676) |