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Seems absurd to say birthright applies to children of illegals, travelers

And so on, just from a common sense perspective. What am I m...
chest-beating alpha
  07/01/26
youre missing 4 women justices
crawly turquoise hissy fit
  07/01/26
It seems obviously wrong and terrible and creates some bad i...
chest-beating alpha
  07/01/26
*well-dressed young man knocks on ur door* Good day, do y...
ocher talented property sweet tailpipe
  07/01/26
Illegals are subject to the jurisdiction of the US and that ...
spruce haunted graveyard university
  07/01/26
in what way are travelers not subject to the jurisdiction of...
aromatic becky sneaky criminal
  07/01/26
Read Thomas's opinion
spruce haunted graveyard university
  07/01/26
wow so you don’t have an answer?
aromatic becky sneaky criminal
  07/01/26
who gives a shit about some rogue MAGA judge’s dissent...
aromatic becky sneaky criminal
  07/01/26
Hmmm...I wonder if you said the same thing about the Wise La...
Swollen motley friendly grandma
  07/01/26
No one gives a shit about Dobbs https://www.xoxohth.com/t...
aromatic becky sneaky criminal
  07/01/26
Cool so you agree with the court's decision in that case?
Swollen motley friendly grandma
  07/01/26
idgaf about abortion issue but it’s interesting that t...
aromatic becky sneaky criminal
  07/01/26
it's always been an idealistic vision, but it was way more g...
Demanding bonkers sandwich
  07/01/26
"we"
emerald beady-eyed home boltzmann
  07/01/26
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  07/01/26
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offensive site
  07/01/26
I'd vote to end it for noncitizens tomorrow
chest-beating alpha
  07/01/26
Amend the constitution if you don’t like it. Or move t...
aromatic becky sneaky criminal
  07/01/26
CR. Not only did they not try to amend it, they didn&rsqu...
smoky sex offender garrison
  07/01/26
Not raging at Trump for not getting approval for Iran is so ...
offensive site
  07/01/26
They are complete cucks. Humiliating.
smoky sex offender garrison
  07/01/26
Massie getting primaried because of it is grim. Now we're ju...
offensive site
  07/01/26
...
Avocado hot dilemma preventive strike
  07/01/26
The IRS should at least go after all these "citizens&qu...
Glittery jap
  07/01/26
you’re just upset the constitution won’t allow y...
aromatic becky sneaky criminal
  07/01/26
It's insane and makes no sense It's also why the Biden nu...
Avocado hot dilemma preventive strike
  07/01/26
K Biden was all American and I won't tolerate this slander ...
laughsome flirting national security agency police squad
  07/01/26
I'm sorry, Corn Pop. Please don't beat my ass
Avocado hot dilemma preventive strike
  07/01/26
birthright citizenship was a tool to take over the Americas ...
Wonderful burgundy factory reset button
  07/01/26
great post
laughsome flirting national security agency police squad
  07/01/26
Subject to the Jurisdiction MEANS subject to the Jurisdictio...
Hilarious tan immigrant box office
  07/01/26
and yet it always had and presumably still has unenumerated ...
Wonderful burgundy factory reset button
  07/01/26
Just define it as whether you have indefinite leave to REMAI...
Dark Violent Gas Station
  07/01/26
...
splenetic ratface
  07/01/26
This is just such an obviously bad policy it's hard to see h...
chest-beating alpha
  07/01/26
I mean thats how they applied it in the years after it was p...
spruce haunted graveyard university
  07/01/26
isn't there a record of judges in the 1800s saying of course...
splenetic ratface
  07/01/26
you couldn't fly here in a day 150 years ago.
Demanding bonkers sandwich
  07/01/26
Obviously the pumo libtards are arguing in bad faith. But th...
Swollen motley friendly grandma
  07/01/26
yeah cons have always consistently argued that constitutiona...
jade indian lodge mental disorder
  07/01/26
(Guy with SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED bumper sticker)
bearded topaz house fortuitous meteor
  07/01/26
Who cares? This hasnt really been a country since the 1960s....
iridescent genital piercing
  07/01/26
By saying this you are questioning the esteem of the foundin...
sexy tanning salon keepsake machete
  07/01/26
founders?
emerald beady-eyed home boltzmann
  07/01/26
Isn’t your Asian Confucianism all about ancestor worsh...
iridescent genital piercing
  07/01/26
Senator Jacob M Howard of Michigan was a founding birdshit?
Mildly Autistic Business Firm Background Story
  07/01/26
Mark Levin has gone full Israel shill, but there was a point...
Swollen motley friendly grandma
  07/01/26
It depends on what the meaning of the word "Jurisdictio...
Mildly Autistic Business Firm Background Story
  07/01/26
Of course it’s fucking absurd what the hell?
Coral Geriatric Church Building
  07/01/26
You're right to PUSH BACK on that
Mildly Autistic Business Firm Background Story
  07/01/26
A lot of posters disagree apparently
chest-beating alpha
  07/01/26
We can't have that many citizens
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  07/01/26


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Date: July 1st, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: chest-beating alpha

And so on, just from a common sense perspective. What am I missing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973163)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 8:57 AM
Author: crawly turquoise hissy fit

youre missing 4 women justices

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973165)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:07 AM
Author: chest-beating alpha

It seems obviously wrong and terrible and creates some bad incentives like when libs said no one with children with them would be deported

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973190)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:08 AM
Author: ocher talented property sweet tailpipe

*well-dressed young man knocks on ur door*

Good day, do you have a moment to discuss the Kalergi Plan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973193)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:10 AM
Author: spruce haunted graveyard university

Illegals are subject to the jurisdiction of the US and that is the way the amendment was drafted unfortunately.

Even Thomas basically conceded that anyone domiciled in the US was subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

Travelers is more contentious and less defensible but this is a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973196)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:23 AM
Author: aromatic becky sneaky criminal

in what way are travelers not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973220)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:14 AM
Author: spruce haunted graveyard university

Read Thomas's opinion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973444)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:18 PM
Author: aromatic becky sneaky criminal

wow so you don’t have an answer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973591)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:19 PM
Author: aromatic becky sneaky criminal

who gives a shit about some rogue MAGA judge’s dissenting opinion when the majority held that you don’t know shit about constitutional law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973596)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:38 PM
Author: Swollen motley friendly grandma

Hmmm...I wonder if you said the same thing about the Wise Latina's dissent in Dobbs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973620)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:49 PM
Author: aromatic becky sneaky criminal

No one gives a shit about Dobbs

https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878956&mc=1&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973639)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:51 PM
Author: Swollen motley friendly grandma

Cool so you agree with the court's decision in that case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973644)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 1:12 PM
Author: aromatic becky sneaky criminal

idgaf about abortion issue but it’s interesting that the decision was immaterial to the reality on the ground 🤷‍♂️



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973679)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:13 AM
Author: Demanding bonkers sandwich

it's always been an idealistic vision, but it was way more grounded before international travel became so trivial. the good news is we can change it at anytime. the bad news is we won't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973203)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:40 AM
Author: emerald beady-eyed home boltzmann

"we"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973261)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:12 AM
Author: bipolar out-of-control feces dopamine



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:47 AM
Author: offensive site



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:32 AM
Author: chest-beating alpha

I'd vote to end it for noncitizens tomorrow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973363)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:22 AM
Author: aromatic becky sneaky criminal

Amend the constitution if you don’t like it. Or move to Russia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973217)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:28 AM
Author: smoky sex offender garrison

CR.

Not only did they not try to amend it, they didn’t even go through congress. What a bunch of cucks to support so much executive power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973230)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:50 AM
Author: offensive site

Not raging at Trump for not getting approval for Iran is so embarassing. Even if you supported the war you should be aghast at the executive expanding his power that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973274)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:09 AM
Author: smoky sex offender garrison

They are complete cucks. Humiliating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973313)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:12 AM
Author: offensive site

Massie getting primaried because of it is grim. Now we're just MAGA GOPe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973320)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:17 AM
Author: Avocado hot dilemma preventive strike



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:26 AM
Author: Glittery jap

The IRS should at least go after all these "citizens" for taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973224)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:28 AM
Author: aromatic becky sneaky criminal

you’re just upset the constitution won’t allow you to be racist

you don’t actually care about the technical argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973227)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:28 AM
Author: Avocado hot dilemma preventive strike

It's insane and makes no sense

It's also why the Biden numbers were so big: there is a limited time to wake up and organize the changes needed to stop it. But once that time is over, the only rescue is America becoming bad enough that it's not worth the risk of emigrating to it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973228)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:36 AM
Author: laughsome flirting national security agency police squad

K Biden was all American and I won't tolerate this slander

He got a bad deal and personally I feel bad for bashing him so much when in reality those anti-trust guys and old school trade unionist whites are what the democratic consensus SHOULD have been built on (and I said as much, albeit in other words)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973246)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:44 AM
Author: Avocado hot dilemma preventive strike

I'm sorry, Corn Pop. Please don't beat my ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973269)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:39 AM
Author: Wonderful burgundy factory reset button

birthright citizenship was a tool to take over the Americas from indigenous people.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1536/cpsprodpb/f2cd/live/f1916210-e49d-11ef-a319-fb4e7360c4ec.png.webp

unfortunately, to fix Dred Scott, the US used sweeping language that is susceptible of a really dumb interpretation that locks in a really dumb policy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973254)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:19 AM
Author: laughsome flirting national security agency police squad

great post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973331)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:44 AM
Author: Hilarious tan immigrant box office

Subject to the Jurisdiction MEANS subject to the Jurisdiction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973268)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: Wonderful burgundy factory reset button

and yet it always had and presumably still has unenumerated exceptions, meaning that the phrase is reasonably construed as a category.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973343)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:30 AM
Author: Dark Violent Gas Station

Just define it as whether you have indefinite leave to REMAIN, which is how I assume it’s basically done in every other country in the world.

Of course that concept didn’t really exist in 1865 which is why this whole thing is retarded (and I think is basically Kavs reasoning as to why congress can define it as they want)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973361)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:10 AM
Author: splenetic ratface



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:33 AM
Author: chest-beating alpha

This is just such an obviously bad policy it's hard to see how this was the real intent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973366)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:16 AM
Author: spruce haunted graveyard university

I mean thats how they applied it in the years after it was passed. Been this way for over a century

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973448)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:25 AM
Author: splenetic ratface

isn't there a record of judges in the 1800s saying of course it wouldn't apply to children of diplomats etc thought I remembered reading that ages ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973474)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:19 AM
Author: Demanding bonkers sandwich

you couldn't fly here in a day 150 years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973453)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:09 PM
Author: Swollen motley friendly grandma

Obviously the pumo libtards are arguing in bad faith. But this is of course the cr. It is really jarring to look back at immigration in history and see that a lot of people actually went back to their home countries. And it's like, yeah no shit, they didn't have endless welfare and a group of people who pee sitting down and fart cum out of their assholes doing anything and everything they can to make life easier for them at the expense of the nation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973573)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 1:01 PM
Author: jade indian lodge mental disorder

yeah cons have always consistently argued that constitutional interpretation needs to take into account changing circumstances

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973661)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:34 AM
Author: bearded topaz house fortuitous meteor

(Guy with SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED bumper sticker)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973492)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:20 AM
Author: iridescent genital piercing

Who cares? This hasnt really been a country since the 1960s. Make your money. Keep your head down. Make sure your sons never serve in the army or as cops. Very simple.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973459)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:29 AM
Author: sexy tanning salon keepsake machete

By saying this you are questioning the esteem of the founding birdshits, this was how they wrote it and interpreted it. If you don't like it then you can leave the US. In this country we respect the wise judgment of the superior Birdshit founders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973480)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: emerald beady-eyed home boltzmann

founders?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973510)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:55 AM
Author: iridescent genital piercing

Isn’t your Asian Confucianism all about ancestor worship like this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973540)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:43 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Business Firm Background Story

Senator Jacob M Howard of Michigan was a founding birdshit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973627)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Swollen motley friendly grandma

Mark Levin has gone full Israel shill, but there was a point where he was pushing for a Convention of States to amend the constitution. Maybe it's impossible, but it always seemed like the only actual method for amending the constitution in any useful way.

It feels like this is off the table now and probably needed to get done in like 2010 at the latest. (Around when the idea was being discussed by Levin and others.)

Again, I realize Levin is full bore Israel first at this point, but the Convention of States idea felt like a strong approach.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2テ「竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49973564)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:20 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Business Firm Background Story

It depends on what the meaning of the word "Jurisdiction" is.

Now, that may sound like a lawyer’s answer, but the Constitution is a lawyer’s document. If jurisdiction means the power of the United States to enforce its laws, then the child is under our jurisdiction. The parents can be arrested, sued, taxed, deported, and held accountable under American law. They are not diplomats. They are not an invading army. They are here, and the law reaches them.

But if jurisdiction means full political allegiance, as in a deeper belonging to the American community, then the question gets harder. A tourist obeys our laws, but he has not joined our country. An undocumented immigrant is subject to our authority, but he has not been admitted into our polity.

I think we ought to be very careful before letting the government decide that some children born here are less “born here” than others. And we ought to be just as careful before saying the government has no choice to make at all.

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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: Coral Geriatric Church Building

Of course it’s fucking absurd what the hell?

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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Business Firm Background Story

You're right to PUSH BACK on that

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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:48 PM
Author: chest-beating alpha

A lot of posters disagree apparently

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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:53 PM
Author: Arousing Unhinged Theater Community Account

We can't have that many citizens

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