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All joking aside, being a doctor sounds like a shitty deal
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Date: July 13th, 2026 8:16 AM Author: floppy shimmering parlor personal credit line You have to superstudy in undergrad first of all. I knew plenty of premeditated who had normal college experiences, but there were also some who didn't.
Then four years of med school, often brutally difficult, wracking up huge loan balances.
Then more years making a teacher's salary, while loan balances accrued. Maybe a couple, maybe 5+ if you want to be a brain surgeon or similar.
Then you've "maed it" and you make.... 300k? 400k? Sometimes less. When you're smart enough to make much more in business. While paying off huge loan balances, and after years of foregone earnings. Doctors love to complain, but any kid considering this path needs to understand that it's not all that great. |
Date: July 13th, 2026 9:08 AM Author: boyish crawly macaca elastic band It seems pretty cush once you're midway through your career. Yeah the front half is brutal, but most of the 40+ docs I know are downright lazy and have great lives.
Seems like a very cr life path where you really front load the suffering early when you have the most energy and vitality so you can coast the second half. A real ant and grasshopper situation. |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 11:32 AM Author: learning disabled cheese-eating nowag boomer clutching the edge of a rug “hold my beer” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996346) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:15 AM Author: useless prole roast beef It depends on the specialty and the ambition of the doctor. I think a lot of medicine has become awful because of technology and subsequent PE roll-up activity. Just being a run-of-the-mill GP is definitely terrible now unless you are a concierge doc or you have some level of mind for building a real practice.
If you are in a specialty field, I think it's probably a good career. Especially if you aren't just diagnosing, but actually perform specialized procedures. Otherwise, it's gotta feel a bit like being a horse-and-buggy driver in 1910.
It's to the point that I'd much rather see a Nurse or PA if I go to a clinic type environment instead of a doctor. How much resentment must a doctor in that sort of environment have? |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:18 AM Author: Bateful Frisky Ticket Booth Disagree, by and large.
CR re undergrad: That takes a lot of studying and striving for most people. Unlike law school (ljl lawyers), where pretty much any college grad can get into some US law school, getting into med school in the US is competitive.
Beyond that, the career seems fine and on an upward trajectory as you progress. You don't need to grind so much in med school because there are plenty of good jobs to go around. You just need to do OK, assuming you don't feel compelled to strive for an elite fellowship at some prestigious institution.
Post-med school and a circumscribed residency--that people don't get Latham'ed out of if they show up and do an OK job--the career is very cushy. ER doctors working 2-3 12 hour shifts (their choice!) a week. GPs, dermatologists, etc. doing 4 days a week, 9-4 (and taking most Wednesday afternoons off)...
If my kids were in college now, weighing admission at a good law school or a good med school, I'd suggest they go to med school. |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 6:55 PM Author: Indigo library deer antler Circumcised resident tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49997401) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:18 AM Author: Azure mad-dog skullcap They often have to live in the middle of nowhere. And one of the few jobs left that you can’t just do remotely. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996085) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:21 AM Author: Bateful Frisky Ticket Booth (not a robo doctor wheeling into the room to tell your loved one the tumor is inoperable and billing insurance $375 for the consultation (https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/kpi/kpiqjg-b78481034z120090310104837000giqgsp1s1lg.jpg?w=620)) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996098) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:22 AM Author: Bistre nursing home There are tons of remote scam doctors now actually. Our very own bOor is one of them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996103) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:58 AM Author: pale razzle point liquid oxygen lots of niggers doing TeleDoc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996257) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:33 AM Author: bonkers nubile brethren The misery is front-loaded. But it's a lot easier than other careers when you're older. Very stable, very routine, and straightforward path. For law, finance, IT it's a lot harder to get high-paying jobs and keep them for the length of your career. Also depends on the specialty you go into. Plenty of anesthesiologists and surgical specialties start at more than 300-400k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996111) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:57 AM Author: Talented maniacal affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996254) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:41 AM Author: Iridescent property hunting ground Is it actually hard to get in? I mean for people who can get into a T14 with balanced GPA/LSAT results
I feel like I could have coasted into med school as easily as I coasted into a T14
I feel like the only things that are actually difficult are the things that require innate, specialized talent and that have a way to rigorously measure. Things like mathematics and music, for example
Most other generalized skill set shit is just trash and trivial to get into and to even do. This includes experimental science...coming up with the experiment can take incredible intellect. Running the experiment is something that drones can do |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:57 AM Author: Bistre nursing home the hard part about being a doctor is if you fuck up you kill people
the specialties that don't have to worry about this are gravy though |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:07 AM Author: Green water buffalo this seems cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996146) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:46 AM Author: Iridescent property hunting ground Don't disagree with this. Medical errors are a HUGE cause of death in this country
I'm just wondering if the entire premise about some kind of "superstudy" obligation is even true
It seems like it's just rote memorization to get into med school. Is that even hard or much of a time sink for people with decent GPA/LSAT combos? |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:44 AM Author: Cowardly university persian I dunno, as a doctor it feels like it’s a race between PE and socialized medicine to see who can ruin your profession first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996124) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:45 AM Author: useless prole roast beef Two sides of the same coin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996125) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:26 AM Author: Hyperactive Irradiated Abode Plus AI. If that’s not within PE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996194) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:41 AM Author: Bistre nursing home medical doctors will be the last field to fall to AI. the AMA is the strongest cartel in america (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996219) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:48 AM Author: Iridescent property hunting ground I think you'll find entire disciplines getting murked pretty easily by the god of profits and multiples
Radiology, dermatology, etc.
Other shit will be much more robust until the data is undeniable. And by then, if you're currently a doctor, you should be able to build your nest egg (or absolutely deserve to get wrecked if you prioritize consumption instead) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 11:35 AM Author: Cowardly university persian Cr. They’re just going to turn the radiologists and derms and all other “quick look and proscribe” specialties into high-volume click-through work based on AI. The end result will be these guys going from rolling-in-it specialists with lifetime sinecures to them training the models and the next generation being no better than pharmacists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996348) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:55 AM Author: Hyperactive Irradiated Abode the ABA is a much stronger cartel, doofus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996253) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 12:19 PM Author: Green water buffalo (guy who thinks the "ABA" has any power at all) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996507) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 12:20 PM Author: Hyperactive Irradiated Abode not the ABA itself, but as lawyers in general. look at cslg and their ilk fighting the uber legislation in CA
lawyers are way the fuck better at protectionism than MDs |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 12:29 PM Author: Iridescent property hunting ground We're too retarded to cooperate well and have done enormous damage to the respek' needed from society to hold out for long in the face of proven tech
PE and AI are in a dead-on sprint to bust out the legal profession first, and it couldn't happen to more deserving people, although, sadly, if the profession weren't a den of scumbags and thieves, it's one of the few that should be prioritized for protection |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 12:42 PM Author: Hyperactive Irradiated Abode PE destroyed the medical profession decades ago. PE is just attempting to work on non-lawyers owning law firms and has been successful in what, 2, states? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996600) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 2:28 PM Author: Iridescent property hunting ground You know, it's interesting. Maybe there is something inherently powerful about flooding the market with JDs and setting them all up to throw elbows and gnash their teeth in pursuit of staying above the water line. I'm swayable on this one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996884) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:53 AM Author: Laughsome hell mediation cousin is a do and didn't even optimize his fellowship (turned down yale) and was offered 500k/yr starting in radiology, so the money is there once you make it through all the bs.
however, all the dr's i know essentially lead 'financed' lifestyles because they're able to get big loans on the basis of guaranteed income stream. none are actually 'wealthy' in the sense that they have a big pile of money, it's more that they're a guaranteed 500-1mil/yr if they're some kind of specialist. the more entrepreneurial ones in high dollar specialities like dermatology and orthopedics probably pull down millions, but that's no different than the absolute upper tier of any profession doing the same |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:38 AM Author: Swashbuckling puppy orchestra pit Radiologist Aunt gives birth to Radiologist Cousin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996212) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 11:30 AM Author: pale razzle point liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996340) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 2:30 PM Author: Swashbuckling puppy orchestra pit A Radiologist Cunt was involved, believe me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996887) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:52 PM Author: pale razzle point liquid oxygen it was just nice to hear a reference from like 20 years ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49997556) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 11:08 AM Author: ultramarine cruise ship headpube DO isn’t a real doctor. That’s like an Ed.D for men (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996287) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 12:12 PM Author: Hyperactive Irradiated Abode DO seems CR -- less stress and striving, and same results (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996483) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:04 AM Author: Autistic beta tanning salon we should all thank God every day that the soulless, shit-eating, striver-class bourgeoisie exists and are willing to waste their one and only life on this earth doing this kind of retard shit.
the world needs 'surgeons,' and I sure as hell am not putting in this amount of effort to become one.
so good on them. |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:06 AM Author: geriatric bright state haunted graveyard The worst thing is I think all docs at some point have to work in something disgusting like geriatrics dealing with old ppl shitting
How cld u ever want to be arnd mspt Americans bodies they are obese disgusting creatures. I can't even imagine a family doc inspecting dudes balls all day I had a Jew doc look at my balls wtf u want to become a doc Sonu have turd balls on ur furking face it's absurd |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:35 AM Author: Hyperactive Irradiated Abode It’s an incredibly prole profession because of this. That it’s prestigious any more than being a trash man always baffled me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996206) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:08 AM Author: crystalline beady-eyed feces stead they almost all seem like pedantic drug/vaccine pusher/dealers. i don't think they have much autonomy as they report to massive bureaucracy and massively bill to insurance. their hands are constrained, their minds are narrow, and if they don't tow the line they get fucked (see COVID). i don't really like many doctors i know irl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996147) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:41 AM Author: Swashbuckling puppy orchestra pit I think this is cr. The most important skills a doctor in America can have are understanding the most efficient way to bill insurance companies and the lack of imagination required to never ever deviate from that course of action. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996218) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 12:55 PM Author: crystalline beady-eyed feces stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996636) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:22 AM Author: rose gaping It's the worst aspects of hardcore professional responsibility while also doing customer service/dealing with proles. Medicine is probably better than law that requires dealing with proles and going to court frequently (personal bankruptcy, criminal, family, etc.) but worse than scholar law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996187) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:33 AM Author: Hyperactive Irradiated Abode Some don’t realize the upside isn’t the same as it was for boomer doctors. Owning a practice and profiting is much more difficult because of the corporatizing of medicine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996204) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:41 AM Author: Talented maniacal affirmative action it is vastly more prestigious than law. it is vastly higher paying once you are done with residency. and residents are not living in poverty. far more job security. far more control over your schedule. and xo will never admit this because its so cynical about everything, but doctors are vastly more useful to society and actually do genuiniely good work for people and improve lives. you can cite a pill pusher foreign md mill in queens and i can cite a pediatric surgeon who saves kids' lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996217) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:05 PM Author: Frum fuchsia crotch keeping boomers and niggers alive is a net negative for society, IIRC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49997440) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:53 AM Author: Navy high-end mexican how much of a threat are NP/PAs to MDs? I see an NP now and barely see a MD anymore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996249) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 12:48 PM Author: Bistre nursing home their salaries have only gone up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996609) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 12:54 PM Author: translucent electric whorehouse seems kind of cr though less cr than it used to be.
I'd think the reduced independence and increased bureaucracy make it less enjoyable and rewarding for most doctors.
Rather than independently running their practices and treating patients, they are increasingly more akin to employees who have billable type targets and have to operate within the confines of corporate structure and insurance regulation. |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 1:01 PM Author: Bearded drunken casino the medical profession is a combination of extremely good mixed with extremely bad. same for being a doctor. it doesn't have to be this way. the entire sector should be revamped. the current situation is the result of meddling, pandering, and coddling, not free markets. however, the pussy populace is not willing to give up on the extremely good parts in order to fix the extremely bad parts |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 1:07 PM Author: Pontificating Excitant Digit Ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996661) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 1:13 PM Author: Navy high-end mexican what specialty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996679) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 2:49 PM Author: Bearded drunken casino the theme above is that the payoff is in the 2nd half of her career (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882240&forum_id=2ﾃ｢竄ï½���„1¤77PHPSESSID=3d8e678aec504db068978830e992758d#49996924) |