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Gun to head: 1994 demographics in perpetuity, or 1994 tech in perpetuity?

I like to flatter myself that Im pretty racist, but I think ...
Lemon lay
  05/13/26
You get recognition for a good hypo and having TCR
Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall
  05/13/26
how is this even a question? 1994 demographics I'm Libera...
Heady snowy half-breed double fault
  05/13/26
I feel pretty hopeless about cell phones the people who a...
Lemon lay
  05/13/26
No, the decline of religion (which was happening and inevita...
Heady snowy half-breed double fault
  05/13/26
It's not "screens", it's what technology enables h...
Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall
  05/13/26
Tech and it is not remotely close.
Milky Fortuitous Meteor
  05/13/26
This. Anyone who understands human nature will say this. A...
Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall
  05/13/26
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Lemon lay
  05/15/26
White (Non-Hispanic): Dropped from roughly 74-75% in the mid...
Exciting onyx cuck church building
  05/13/26
demographics, not even a question
fluffy learning disabled dog poop location
  05/13/26
pull the trigger
razzle puce theatre
  05/13/26
idk I kinda liked 1998 tech better
Irradiated shimmering brethren
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Effete Angry Toilet Seat
  05/13/26
If you freeze at 1994 tech, you might also get 1994 demograp...
electric burgundy legal warrant
  05/13/26
demographics everything else you can fix, but the post-1965...
Erotic coffee pot
  05/13/26
In your view, what's the difference between how tech issues ...
Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall
  05/13/26
I would be fine if the world remained in 1994 forever on bot...
Erotic coffee pot
  05/13/26
I think we're way past the point that pulling the plug or sm...
Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall
  05/13/26
Yes. This is true. I don't know if it will happen but it is ...
Erotic coffee pot
  05/13/26
I think this is definitely coming within our expected lifeti...
Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall
  05/13/26
technology is ultimately inevitable. there is something hard...
Heady snowy half-breed double fault
  05/13/26
Seems that we are in agreement in a big picture sense for th...
Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall
  05/13/26
need a precise date to be able to consider whether i would b...
Trip painfully honest codepig
  05/13/26
1994 tech, easy. And keeping the 1994 tech would also sustai...
pea-brained police squad
  05/13/26
Illegal immigration was basically an unbroken linear march s...
Heady snowy half-breed double fault
  05/13/26
Yeah. Those goddamn farmers and their unbridled powers circ...
Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall
  05/13/26
People immigrate illegally because they can find work to do ...
Heady snowy half-breed double fault
  05/13/26
Farmers by the late 20th century are the straw men for much ...
Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall
  05/13/26
Farmers exert an insane amount of political influence relati...
Heady snowy half-breed double fault
  05/13/26
The Bracero program underscores why farmers aren't the real ...
Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall
  05/13/26
#2 and #3 are so true but so hard to communicate
razzle puce theatre
  05/13/26
I think a lot of younger people (under 30 especially) just d...
pea-brained police squad
  05/13/26
"(actual) middle class that isn't just paper pushing mi...
Glittery slippery space
  05/15/26
well 1994 was still SNES, so can we creep that date up a cou...
Up-to-no-good university potus
  05/13/26
1994 demographics will solve all other problems. Without loc...
black 180 generalized bond windowlicker
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Doesn't Europe have basically 80% - 90% white people? Look a...
pea-brained police squad
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I don't care about Euros, they are very poor and have been s...
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vivacious mediation
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Hilarious that anyone would care about "demographics&qu...
Histrionic avocado french chef legend
  05/13/26
the death spiral is largely due to demographics. 1994 gets u...
vivacious mediation
  05/13/26
I'm not smart enough to be sure: are you voting for demograp...
Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall
  05/13/26
tech, but it's a close one.
vivacious mediation
  05/15/26
People are constantly complaining about how tired and exhaus...
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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:59 AM
Author: Lemon lay

I like to flatter myself that Im pretty racist, but I think I would freeze tech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883169)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:38 AM
Author: Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall

You get recognition for a good hypo and having TCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883385)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:00 AM
Author: Heady snowy half-breed double fault

how is this even a question? 1994 demographics

I'm Liberal btw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883173)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:03 AM
Author: Lemon lay

I feel pretty hopeless about cell phones

the people who are populating town square is kind of a problem, but I dont really think we will even have town squares as the internet continues its march. 2007 iphone was some kind of Pearl Harbor, but we cannot even name it yet. Its truly destroying everything that matters. Real dark shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883178)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:08 AM
Author: Heady snowy half-breed double fault

No, the decline of religion (which was happening and inevitable way before phones) is 100x more impactful. "Screens" are just a red herring people fret about so they can pretend it's a less fundamental problem than the nearly 2000 year foundation of Western society evaporating over the course of the last century

They're not good for kids but that's not some unsolvable problem. People want to blame "screens" for all of societies ills now that boomers (the previous scapegoat we all used to deflect from the real issue) are too old to blame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883196)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:42 AM
Author: Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall

It's not "screens", it's what technology enables humans to do and be. And woe be to he who thinks "screens" have introduced even a fraction of the horror that continued technological advancement will bring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883270)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:05 AM
Author: Milky Fortuitous Meteor

Tech and it is not remotely close.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883187)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:40 AM
Author: Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall

This. Anyone who understands human nature will say this. A million times this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883262)



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Date: May 15th, 2026 9:07 AM
Author: Lemon lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49885574)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:10 AM
Author: Exciting onyx cuck church building

White (Non-Hispanic): Dropped from roughly 74-75% in the mid-1990s to approximately 57% in 2025.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883208)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:30 AM
Author: fluffy learning disabled dog poop location

demographics, not even a question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883224)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:35 AM
Author: razzle puce theatre

pull the trigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883246)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:36 AM
Author: Irradiated shimmering brethren

idk I kinda liked 1998 tech better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883248)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:14 PM
Author: Effete Angry Toilet Seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883506)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:45 AM
Author: electric burgundy legal warrant

If you freeze at 1994 tech, you might also get 1994 demographics.

No tech book, so no jeets. No gps apps, so fewer illegals making their way across the border.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883278)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:39 AM
Author: Erotic coffee pot

demographics

everything else you can fix, but the post-1965 demographic disaster can never ever be fixed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883390)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:43 AM
Author: Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall

In your view, what's the difference between how tech issues would be resolved versus how a demographic crisis would be resolved? I think it's the opposite (demographics are easier to fix than technology), so definitely interested in your rationale

To be clear: I don't think we have the stomach to fix demographic problems. But I see how they could theoretically be fixed. I don't see even a single avenue for fixing technology though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883392)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:49 AM
Author: Erotic coffee pot

I would be fine if the world remained in 1994 forever on both dimensions. But tech issues can in an emergency be resolved by breaking things and pulling some plugs. A demographic crisis can only be resolved by very, very grisly means involving huge loss of life or other human misery, civil war, that kind of thing. I'd rather in a crisis pull some plugs rather than kill a bunch of people (or have them kill me).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883398)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:58 AM
Author: Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall

I think we're way past the point that pulling the plug or smashing a box with a hammer can stop anything

Tech has become the military industrial complex of our time enabling never before seen capabilities to track, disrupt, and interdict "threats," as well as control, manipulate, and enslave entire populations. It's distributed. It runs our economy. It gives people tremendous comfort--the one commodity humans seem to be incapable of sacrificing--while keeping them firmly under the thumb of real authority

That only goes away when the owner of the power transitions out of human hands, and I don't see why it would get any better for us at that point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883408)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:03 AM
Author: Erotic coffee pot

Yes. This is true. I don't know if it will happen but it is highly plausible.

The thing that worries me as much (less drastic outcome, but higher probability) is a total massacre of white collar employment especially the young fresh out of college who will never have a chance, in the same way that china trade totally massacred blue collar employment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883422)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:25 AM
Author: Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall

I think this is definitely coming within our expected lifetimes. The only bright spot is that it might trigger the demographic war. Though at that point it may be more likely to be a war of national origin, national allegiance, and ethnicity than a race war

And in all honesty, I think the modern world shows that shared values and beliefs, and the willingness to live within those values and beliefs, is a million times more important than race. The motherfuckers at the top are selling out their own people, in the classic sense, at rates never before seen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883435)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:57 AM
Author: Heady snowy half-breed double fault

technology is ultimately inevitable. there is something hardwired into human DNA to always be doing new shit for better or worse and have to deal with it as we move along. the instinct that resulted in the slow evolution from hunter gatherers clubbing our bros in the skull into civilization is a core part of our species

demographics are a direct byproduct of our immigration policy. maybe in the long run it's destiny that we become a species of grey skinned cyborgs, but that's a very long way off and quite different from "the US is now Upper Mexico"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883406)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:00 AM
Author: Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall

Seems that we are in agreement in a big picture sense for this hypo (without quibbling about what should or should not be included in "demographics")

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883416)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:53 AM
Author: Trip painfully honest codepig

need a precise date to be able to consider whether i would be eligible to buy the PlayStation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883402)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:19 AM
Author: pea-brained police squad

1994 tech, easy. And keeping the 1994 tech would also sustain the 1994 demographics for a host of reasons, some of which I will lay out here:

1.) Less need for serf labor in smartphone-enabled "jobs." No Door Dash, no Uber. If you want delivery, you need to hire someone competent (easier when the average IQ is still actually 100 and not everyone is vaping weed all day). If you want a taxi, you need someone who knows the roads and isn't competing with every person who owns a car to pick you up. BUT OH MY CONVENIENCE!! Too much convenience is obviously bad.

2.) More general competence required across the economy. Less abundance of information means you need people who are more adept at dealing with uncertainty and using judgment to make decisions. This requires a higher average IQ across industries. It also selects more for MEN. 

3.) Less general malaise because of anhedonia and media addiction. More general friction in life. More texture. More of a need to simply be on the move to get things done and not sit at a desk all day. All of this keeps people happier and also sustains industries that add to the texture of life (newsstands, for instance.) 

4.) Less financialization of industry and less of an economy purely driven by transactions. Much more vibrancy to the economy overall. Less outrageous wealth inequality, stronger (actual) middle class that isn't just paper pushing middle management fraud types.

5.) Stories on TV / movies can still have heavy procedural elements instead of just looking at a cell phone screen for an answer. Go watch an episode of Law & Order from 1994, it is amazing.

6.) People being themselves and not just adopting personalities they see online all day on social media on their faggot phones.

7.) Virtually zero trannies because of lack of social contagion and women being insane from Instagram.

8.) Still a feeling of real exploration in the world.

9.) Real and distinct sub-cultures that aren't just farmed for views online. Things develop more organically.

10.) People would be thinner and healthier overall.

Most of this acts as a barrier to importing 90 IQ third worlders. It is the ultimate win-win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883430)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:49 AM
Author: Heady snowy half-breed double fault

Illegal immigration was basically an unbroken linear march starting in earnest in the 80s. It didn't crest until the mid-2000s pre-ITE (and rose again during Biden), but it has nothing, absolutely fucking nothing, to do with "screens" and everything to do with zero punishment for employers employing illegals. Once farmers realized they have an infinite pool of sub-market wages to draw from it was over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883457)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:20 PM
Author: Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall

Yeah. Those goddamn farmers and their unbridled powers circa the 1980s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883550)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:24 PM
Author: Heady snowy half-breed double fault

People immigrate illegally because they can find work to do and carve out a life. That was happening in earnest long before "smartphones" and we could've easily put a stop to it by punishing the people employing them. We chose not to because that would mean the price of avocados and lawncare and hotel staff goes up 35%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883570)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:27 PM
Author: Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall

Farmers by the late 20th century are the straw men for much more powerful, much more corporate interests

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883586)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:29 PM
Author: Heady snowy half-breed double fault

Farmers exert an insane amount of political influence relative to how many of them there are. There's a reason why we carve out endless porkbarrel exceptions specifically for farmers decade after decade.

Farmers are why we had the Bracero program, and they used illegal immigration to replace it.

Obviously it wasn't just them, but they were by far the single largest driver and more importantly the *first* driver of illegal immigration, setting a precedent for other business owners to not fear employing illegals.

And all of this was set in motion long before anyone had a PDA or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883603)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:49 PM
Author: Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall

The Bracero program underscores why farmers aren't the real drivers of the problem. They were totally cool with seasonal farm labor coming in when needed and, more importantly, going back when not. It ended not because farmers demanded illegal alien labor, but because organized labor protested against it

The question to ask is why did government largely turn a blind eye to illegals for so long. I don't think it was the farmers. Besides, if the farmers had the clout you say, they wouldn't have ended the Bracero program or would have replaced it with something codified into law like every other farm-friendly program

EDIT: You know, in talking through this, it probably was the communist plot to destabilize America through "education" and demographic splintering that drove this. I don't know if "globalism" was an organized vision at that point that pulled the communist strings or not. If it was, then it gets back to my initial thought that it was a corporate interest-driven thing. If it wasn't, then it was probably a "we're enemies and need to destroy you" thing glommed on to our fucking leaders always being eager to sell the rest of us out type thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883693)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:25 PM
Author: razzle puce theatre

#2 and #3 are so true but so hard to communicate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883576)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 2:04 PM
Author: pea-brained police squad

I think a lot of younger people (under 30 especially) just didn't know the old world where competence was closer to the norm. Every industry required some baseline level of competence and judgment because information was less abundant. Locking tech in would turn this competence into a sort of moat from a population standpoint.

What's more, imperfect information is where the fun lies. Uncertainty is good and adds to a sense of mystery and adventure. People obviously seek this feeling out constantly on their phones and it has blown out their brains.

I see the other poaster talking about illegal immigration and farm labor. And he isn't wrong. But with tech locked into 1994 levels, the immigrant labor might actually just stay in the realm of "but who will pick the lettuce?" The broader economy would still sustain a huge number of quality jobs for people who have to work with imperfect info to make decisions and organize people and assets around various endeavors because software would not exist to do this for them.

And guess what, those quality jobs require a certain baseline level of competence which means a certain baseline of IQ. Which means you don't import millions of mystery meat people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883844)



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Date: May 15th, 2026 9:47 AM
Author: Glittery slippery space

"(actual) middle class that isn't just paper pushing middle management fraud types." - 1990s was the peak for paper pushing middle management fraud types. a lot of paper was being pushed around.

"People being themselves and not just adopting personalities they see online all day on social media on their faggot phones." - 90s MTV pop culture was alive and well. everyone dressed like shit between grunge wannabes and girls wearing frumpy sweaters and mom jeans because they watched my so called life or some shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49885679)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 1:37 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good university potus

well 1994 was still SNES, so can we creep that date up a couple years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883802)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 2:34 PM
Author: black 180 generalized bond windowlicker

1994 demographics will solve all other problems. Without locking that in, the forces of globalization and falling white birth rates will doom us and we will become brown AND not have Google maps or wikipedia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883869)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 3:29 PM
Author: pea-brained police squad

Doesn't Europe have basically 80% - 90% white people? Look at what they're doing to themselves. It's downstream of modern tech, IMO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883934)



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Date: May 15th, 2026 10:37 AM
Author: black 180 generalized bond windowlicker

I don't care about Euros, they are very poor and have been self immolating for literally 100+ years. It's a sickness in their brains that proliferated after WWI, not due to tech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49885790)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 3:30 PM
Author: vivacious mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883935)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 7:46 PM
Author: Supple Alpha Menage



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Date: May 15th, 2026 10:37 AM
Author: Cerise stage gay wizard



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Date: May 13th, 2026 3:32 PM
Author: Histrionic avocado french chef legend

Hilarious that anyone would care about "demographics" compared to the death spiral that 21st century tech has put us on as a society

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883943)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 3:37 PM
Author: vivacious mediation

the death spiral is largely due to demographics. 1994 gets us closer to the demographics we had before Israel sank its teeth into our politicians via AIPAC. However, the 90s were when that shit *really* ramped up, so keeping 94 tech might be tcr if we don't get to address the real problem. at least it'd push off the inevitable for another generation or two.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883956)



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Date: May 13th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: Concupiscible famous landscape painting hall

I'm not smart enough to be sure: are you voting for demographics or tech in your response? I think you're smart enough to get the right answer, so I want to be sure I'm not misunderstanding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49883972)



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Date: May 15th, 2026 10:45 AM
Author: vivacious mediation

tech, but it's a close one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49885811)



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Date: May 15th, 2026 10:28 AM
Author: Stirring Rambunctious Sanctuary

People are constantly complaining about how tired and exhausted they are. Everyone seems depressed or angry all the time. Kids are withdrawn and stay indoors instead of going out into the world with their friends. I'm sure demographics play some role here, but I think screens and social media bears more of the blame. We'd be better off without it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49885768)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 1:36 PM
Author: The Dismal Tide



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