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Seems absurd to say birthright applies to children of illegals, travelers

And so on, just from a common sense perspective. What am I m...
sinister tanning salon alpha
  07/01/26
youre missing 4 women justices
khaki hateful round eye
  07/01/26
It seems obviously wrong and terrible and creates some bad i...
sinister tanning salon alpha
  07/01/26
*well-dressed young man knocks on ur door* Good day, do y...
duck-like silver chapel
  07/01/26
Illegals are subject to the jurisdiction of the US and that ...
Federal Bright Business Firm Death Wish
  07/01/26
in what way are travelers not subject to the jurisdiction of...
rose fiercely-loyal hell
  07/01/26
Read Thomas's opinion
Federal Bright Business Firm Death Wish
  07/01/26
wow so you don’t have an answer?
rose fiercely-loyal hell
  07/01/26
who gives a shit about some rogue MAGA judge’s dissent...
rose fiercely-loyal hell
  07/01/26
Hmmm...I wonder if you said the same thing about the Wise La...
aquamarine pungent background story double fault
  07/01/26
No one gives a shit about Dobbs https://www.xoxohth.com/t...
rose fiercely-loyal hell
  07/01/26
Cool so you agree with the court's decision in that case?
aquamarine pungent background story double fault
  07/01/26
idgaf about abortion issue but it’s interesting that t...
rose fiercely-loyal hell
  07/01/26
it's always been an idealistic vision, but it was way more g...
turquoise shitlib messiness
  07/01/26
"we"
up-to-no-good station
  07/01/26
...
Passionate sadistic preventive strike
  07/01/26
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provocative salmon faggotry quadroon
  07/01/26
I'd vote to end it for noncitizens tomorrow
sinister tanning salon alpha
  07/01/26
Amend the constitution if you don’t like it. Or move t...
rose fiercely-loyal hell
  07/01/26
CR. Not only did they not try to amend it, they didn&rsqu...
ruby milk
  07/01/26
Not raging at Trump for not getting approval for Iran is so ...
provocative salmon faggotry quadroon
  07/01/26
They are complete cucks. Humiliating.
ruby milk
  07/01/26
Massie getting primaried because of it is grim. Now we're ju...
provocative salmon faggotry quadroon
  07/01/26
...
overrated mustard parlour
  07/01/26
The IRS should at least go after all these "citizens&qu...
carmine indian lodge azn
  07/01/26
you’re just upset the constitution won’t allow y...
rose fiercely-loyal hell
  07/01/26
It's insane and makes no sense It's also why the Biden nu...
overrated mustard parlour
  07/01/26
K Biden was all American and I won't tolerate this slander ...
cerebral main people field
  07/01/26
I'm sorry, Corn Pop. Please don't beat my ass
overrated mustard parlour
  07/01/26
birthright citizenship was a tool to take over the Americas ...
slap-happy haunting bawdyhouse becky
  07/01/26
great post
cerebral main people field
  07/01/26
Subject to the Jurisdiction MEANS subject to the Jurisdictio...
Soggy appetizing location
  07/01/26
and yet it always had and presumably still has unenumerated ...
slap-happy haunting bawdyhouse becky
  07/01/26
Just define it as whether you have indefinite leave to REMAI...
Shimmering mentally impaired private investor keepsake machete
  07/01/26
...
maize dilemma
  07/01/26
This is just such an obviously bad policy it's hard to see h...
sinister tanning salon alpha
  07/01/26
I mean thats how they applied it in the years after it was p...
Federal Bright Business Firm Death Wish
  07/01/26
isn't there a record of judges in the 1800s saying of course...
maize dilemma
  07/01/26
you couldn't fly here in a day 150 years ago.
turquoise shitlib messiness
  07/01/26
Obviously the pumo libtards are arguing in bad faith. But th...
aquamarine pungent background story double fault
  07/01/26
yeah cons have always consistently argued that constitutiona...
Scarlet shrine
  07/01/26
(Guy with SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED bumper sticker)
Godawful Center Dingle Berry
  07/01/26
Who cares? This hasnt really been a country since the 1960s....
Pink Public Bath
  07/01/26
By saying this you are questioning the esteem of the foundin...
Exciting parlor dopamine
  07/01/26
founders?
up-to-no-good station
  07/01/26
Isn’t your Asian Confucianism all about ancestor worsh...
Pink Public Bath
  07/01/26
Senator Jacob M Howard of Michigan was a founding birdshit?
Blue point
  07/01/26
Mark Levin has gone full Israel shill, but there was a point...
aquamarine pungent background story double fault
  07/01/26
It depends on what the meaning of the word "Jurisdictio...
Blue point
  07/01/26
Of course it’s fucking absurd what the hell?
Heady Address
  07/01/26
You're right to PUSH BACK on that
Blue point
  07/01/26
A lot of posters disagree apparently
sinister tanning salon alpha
  07/01/26
We can't have that many citizens
Mauve internal respiration menage
  07/01/26


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Date: July 1st, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: sinister tanning salon alpha

And so on, just from a common sense perspective. What am I missing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973163)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 8:57 AM
Author: khaki hateful round eye

youre missing 4 women justices

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973165)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:07 AM
Author: sinister tanning salon alpha

It seems obviously wrong and terrible and creates some bad incentives like when libs said no one with children with them would be deported

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973190)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:08 AM
Author: duck-like silver chapel

*well-dressed young man knocks on ur door*

Good day, do you have a moment to discuss the Kalergi Plan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973193)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:10 AM
Author: Federal Bright Business Firm Death Wish

Illegals are subject to the jurisdiction of the US and that is the way the amendment was drafted unfortunately.

Even Thomas basically conceded that anyone domiciled in the US was subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

Travelers is more contentious and less defensible but this is a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973196)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:23 AM
Author: rose fiercely-loyal hell

in what way are travelers not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973220)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:14 AM
Author: Federal Bright Business Firm Death Wish

Read Thomas's opinion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973444)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:18 PM
Author: rose fiercely-loyal hell

wow so you don’t have an answer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973591)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:19 PM
Author: rose fiercely-loyal hell

who gives a shit about some rogue MAGA judge’s dissenting opinion when the majority held that you don’t know shit about constitutional law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973596)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:38 PM
Author: aquamarine pungent background story double fault

Hmmm...I wonder if you said the same thing about the Wise Latina's dissent in Dobbs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973620)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:49 PM
Author: rose fiercely-loyal hell

No one gives a shit about Dobbs

https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878956&mc=1&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973639)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:51 PM
Author: aquamarine pungent background story double fault

Cool so you agree with the court's decision in that case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973644)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 1:12 PM
Author: rose fiercely-loyal hell

idgaf about abortion issue but it’s interesting that the decision was immaterial to the reality on the ground 🤷‍♂️



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973679)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:13 AM
Author: turquoise shitlib messiness

it's always been an idealistic vision, but it was way more grounded before international travel became so trivial. the good news is we can change it at anytime. the bad news is we won't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973203)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:40 AM
Author: up-to-no-good station

"we"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973261)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:12 AM
Author: Passionate sadistic preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973440)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:47 AM
Author: provocative salmon faggotry quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973271)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:32 AM
Author: sinister tanning salon alpha

I'd vote to end it for noncitizens tomorrow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973363)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:22 AM
Author: rose fiercely-loyal hell

Amend the constitution if you don’t like it. Or move to Russia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973217)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:28 AM
Author: ruby milk

CR.

Not only did they not try to amend it, they didn’t even go through congress. What a bunch of cucks to support so much executive power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973230)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:50 AM
Author: provocative salmon faggotry quadroon

Not raging at Trump for not getting approval for Iran is so embarassing. Even if you supported the war you should be aghast at the executive expanding his power that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973274)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:09 AM
Author: ruby milk

They are complete cucks. Humiliating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973313)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:12 AM
Author: provocative salmon faggotry quadroon

Massie getting primaried because of it is grim. Now we're just MAGA GOPe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973320)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:17 AM
Author: overrated mustard parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973327)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:26 AM
Author: carmine indian lodge azn

The IRS should at least go after all these "citizens" for taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973224)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:28 AM
Author: rose fiercely-loyal hell

you’re just upset the constitution won’t allow you to be racist

you don’t actually care about the technical argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973227)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:28 AM
Author: overrated mustard parlour

It's insane and makes no sense

It's also why the Biden numbers were so big: there is a limited time to wake up and organize the changes needed to stop it. But once that time is over, the only rescue is America becoming bad enough that it's not worth the risk of emigrating to it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973228)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:36 AM
Author: cerebral main people field

K Biden was all American and I won't tolerate this slander

He got a bad deal and personally I feel bad for bashing him so much when in reality those anti-trust guys and old school trade unionist whites are what the democratic consensus SHOULD have been built on (and I said as much, albeit in other words)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973246)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:44 AM
Author: overrated mustard parlour

I'm sorry, Corn Pop. Please don't beat my ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973269)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:39 AM
Author: slap-happy haunting bawdyhouse becky

birthright citizenship was a tool to take over the Americas from indigenous people.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1536/cpsprodpb/f2cd/live/f1916210-e49d-11ef-a319-fb4e7360c4ec.png.webp

unfortunately, to fix Dred Scott, the US used sweeping language that is susceptible of a really dumb interpretation that locks in a really dumb policy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973254)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:19 AM
Author: cerebral main people field

great post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973331)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:44 AM
Author: Soggy appetizing location

Subject to the Jurisdiction MEANS subject to the Jurisdiction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973268)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: slap-happy haunting bawdyhouse becky

and yet it always had and presumably still has unenumerated exceptions, meaning that the phrase is reasonably construed as a category.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973343)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:30 AM
Author: Shimmering mentally impaired private investor keepsake machete

Just define it as whether you have indefinite leave to REMAIN, which is how I assume it’s basically done in every other country in the world.

Of course that concept didn’t really exist in 1865 which is why this whole thing is retarded (and I think is basically Kavs reasoning as to why congress can define it as they want)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973361)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:10 AM
Author: maize dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973317)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:33 AM
Author: sinister tanning salon alpha

This is just such an obviously bad policy it's hard to see how this was the real intent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973366)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:16 AM
Author: Federal Bright Business Firm Death Wish

I mean thats how they applied it in the years after it was passed. Been this way for over a century

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973448)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:25 AM
Author: maize dilemma

isn't there a record of judges in the 1800s saying of course it wouldn't apply to children of diplomats etc thought I remembered reading that ages ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973474)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:19 AM
Author: turquoise shitlib messiness

you couldn't fly here in a day 150 years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973453)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:09 PM
Author: aquamarine pungent background story double fault

Obviously the pumo libtards are arguing in bad faith. But this is of course the cr. It is really jarring to look back at immigration in history and see that a lot of people actually went back to their home countries. And it's like, yeah no shit, they didn't have endless welfare and a group of people who pee sitting down and fart cum out of their assholes doing anything and everything they can to make life easier for them at the expense of the nation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973573)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 1:01 PM
Author: Scarlet shrine

yeah cons have always consistently argued that constitutional interpretation needs to take into account changing circumstances

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973661)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:34 AM
Author: Godawful Center Dingle Berry

(Guy with SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED bumper sticker)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973492)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:20 AM
Author: Pink Public Bath

Who cares? This hasnt really been a country since the 1960s. Make your money. Keep your head down. Make sure your sons never serve in the army or as cops. Very simple.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973459)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:29 AM
Author: Exciting parlor dopamine

By saying this you are questioning the esteem of the founding birdshits, this was how they wrote it and interpreted it. If you don't like it then you can leave the US. In this country we respect the wise judgment of the superior Birdshit founders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973480)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: up-to-no-good station

founders?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973510)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:55 AM
Author: Pink Public Bath

Isn’t your Asian Confucianism all about ancestor worship like this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973540)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:43 PM
Author: Blue point

Senator Jacob M Howard of Michigan was a founding birdshit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973627)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: aquamarine pungent background story double fault

Mark Levin has gone full Israel shill, but there was a point where he was pushing for a Convention of States to amend the constitution. Maybe it's impossible, but it always seemed like the only actual method for amending the constitution in any useful way.

It feels like this is off the table now and probably needed to get done in like 2010 at the latest. (Around when the idea was being discussed by Levin and others.)

Again, I realize Levin is full bore Israel first at this point, but the Convention of States idea felt like a strong approach.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973564)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:20 PM
Author: Blue point

It depends on what the meaning of the word "Jurisdiction" is.

Now, that may sound like a lawyer’s answer, but the Constitution is a lawyer’s document. If jurisdiction means the power of the United States to enforce its laws, then the child is under our jurisdiction. The parents can be arrested, sued, taxed, deported, and held accountable under American law. They are not diplomats. They are not an invading army. They are here, and the law reaches them.

But if jurisdiction means full political allegiance, as in a deeper belonging to the American community, then the question gets harder. A tourist obeys our laws, but he has not joined our country. An undocumented immigrant is subject to our authority, but he has not been admitted into our polity.

I think we ought to be very careful before letting the government decide that some children born here are less “born here” than others. And we ought to be just as careful before saying the government has no choice to make at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973597)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: Heady Address

Of course it’s fucking absurd what the hell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973603)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: Blue point

You're right to PUSH BACK on that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973605)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:48 PM
Author: sinister tanning salon alpha

A lot of posters disagree apparently

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973637)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:53 PM
Author: Mauve internal respiration menage

We can't have that many citizens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2ГѓЖ’#49973650)