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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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silver codepig rigor
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm
  12/16/25
18000
silver codepig rigor
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
topaz therapy hospital
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
topaz therapy hospital
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
topaz therapy hospital
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
silver codepig rigor
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
topaz therapy hospital
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
topaz therapy hospital
  12/17/25
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silver codepig rigor
  12/17/25
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razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
laughsome walnut pozpig
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm
  12/16/25
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laughsome walnut pozpig
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
amber menage
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
180 gas station
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Cracking Cheese-eating Gay Wizard Boiling Water
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razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm
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silver codepig rigor
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Shaky Soggy Dopamine Crotch
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Burgundy piazza
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Shaky Soggy Dopamine Crotch
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silver codepig rigor
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silver codepig rigor
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
topaz therapy hospital
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
electric abusive immigrant coffee pot
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: silver codepig rigor



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: silver codepig rigor

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: topaz therapy hospital

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: topaz therapy hospital

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: topaz therapy hospital

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: silver codepig rigor

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: topaz therapy hospital

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: topaz therapy hospital

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: silver codepig rigor



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: laughsome walnut pozpig

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: laughsome walnut pozpig



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: amber menage

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: 180 gas station

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Cracking Cheese-eating Gay Wizard Boiling Water

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: silver codepig rigor



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Shaky Soggy Dopamine Crotch

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Burgundy piazza

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: razzle sable twinkling uncleanness business firm



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Shaky Soggy Dopamine Crotch



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: silver codepig rigor



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: topaz therapy hospital

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: electric abusive immigrant coffee pot

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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