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Bid on Boston or DC?
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Date: July 2nd, 2009 3:07 PM Author: multi-colored church bottom 1/3 at Mich (2.9) Primary market will be NYC
I grew up in Boston Boston has only a handful of employers coming, most of them as multi-office interviews (that is, as one of the 15 offices listed for DLA Piper, who have hired less than 3 for Boston from Mich in the last 8 years) Moreover, the GPA cutoffs for Boston seem to be very, very high. Even in a good economy, I probably would not have gotten a single callback.
Whereas DC has many, many more employers And while the top firms in DC are harder, the lower end is a lot lower. The LOW GPA does down to like 2.7 for a lot of firms (in Boston, only two firms did that). But I have no "ties".
OCS tells me that I should bid on Boston, because it's home. I'm thinking that's ridiculous. Smaller market, fewer employers. Tons of people are from Boston, a lot of whom want to go back. Moreover, if they've never hired a 2.9 in the last 8 years, they ain't gonna start this year. At least, for these DC firms, I think i'd be a "meh, ITE, ding", while in boston i'd be an auto-ding.
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Date: July 2nd, 2009 4:34 PM Author: chest-beating deer antler Boston probably isn't the type of market where the local yokels will be bowled over by the sight of a T14 degree, since Harvard grads blot out the sun, so I agree that it won't be some kind of home market panacea for your GPA.
However, I'd probably still go for Boston. The New York firms are the easiest, so if you don't get those primary market firms with no connections, I don't know why you'd get harder primary market firms with no connections. If nothing else, bidding in Boston provides some diversification with respect to what type of applicant you are. It looks like you might have a shot at Choate Hall, Cooley, Dechert, DLA Piper, Foley, Gunderson, Holland & Knight, McDermott Will, Mintz Levin and Nixon Peabody. 10 seems like enough bids for your secondary market - there are surely 20 open-door NY firms to bid on. The "low GPA" is pretty meaningless compared to the median - it's just a function of sample size and outliers. I'd imagine the Boston firms that don't have GPA data would probably be willing to hire lower than almost all DC firms. I'm just not seeing these low DC medians at any firms with a significant sample size. I wouldn't be too worried about the lack of data for Boston firms - a lot of it is more likely a function of low demand than of potential supply. |
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Date: July 2nd, 2009 9:31 PM Author: multi-colored church Dow Lohnes, Crowell & Moring, DLA Piper (DC), Dickstein et al? Granted their medians are 3.3ish, but their lows dip and offer# are big. Boston firms may have similar medians, but their lows don't really dip and sample sizes are even smaller. But yeah, I hope you're right, man. All the firms listed above are also multi-interview places, so we'll see. (Foley? For their perceived lack of prestige, they seemed to have a high GPA requirement)
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Date: July 2nd, 2009 10:03 PM Author: Trip Crusty Stock Car You URM? According to OCS the lows are from URMs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032305&forum_id=2#12145366) |
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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:45 PM Author: Dun Well-lubricated Indian Lodge Sound Barrier What are the open-door NY firms? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032305&forum_id=2#12161562) |
Date: July 2nd, 2009 3:10 PM Author: cocky brindle corner kitty Don't waste your time on DC, you won't get it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032305&forum_id=2#12142410) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2009 3:50 PM Author: Clear razzmatazz house mood YOUR FUCKED (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032305&forum_id=2#12142686) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2009 6:00 PM Author: Learning disabled judgmental shrine boltzmann Don't bother with either Boston or DC. You are NYC or bust, friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032305&forum_id=2#12143501) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2009 9:32 PM Author: multi-colored church I can only come up with 20 or so firms in NY worth a bid. Somehow need to fill out the 30. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032305&forum_id=2#12145104) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2009 10:06 PM Author: Learning disabled judgmental shrine boltzmann What's the next largest market that UM grads go to? Chicago? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032305&forum_id=2#12145391) |
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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:46 PM Author: Dun Well-lubricated Indian Lodge Sound Barrier List them. Do you honestly prefer unemployment to some place like Schulte Roth? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032305&forum_id=2#12161568) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2009 10:08 PM Author: opaque laughsome volcanic crater resort lol at you even saying the word "prestige" with that shitty gpa.
-you won't get DC.
you probably won't get anything. honest sucks. but there you have it. |
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Date: July 4th, 2009 5:44 PM Author: adventurous kitchen tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032305&forum_id=2#12157213) |